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Originally posted by Korch
Have you won any strong player using 1...h5? If yes then can you show this game?
Define "strong".

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
ys, the Caro-Kann was thought of as totally inferior until the late 19th century when two GMs analyzed it...
no one has thoroughly analyzed 1. ... h5?
because it shows no potential whatsoever...
My point exactly. I'm sure people thought the Caro-Kann showed no potential either. 1...h5 will grow in popularity, just you wait and see...!

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strong player: One who doesn't lose to 1...h5 🙂

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Originally posted by Raven69
My point exactly. I'm sure people thought the Caro-Kann showed no potential either. 1...h5 will grow in popularity, just you wait and see...!
i tell you what, you write Pal Benko...
his address is listed in his articles for Chess Life magazine
tell him that you think he should take a serious look at 1. ... h5
if he doesn't laugh at you outright, I will submiss and take back all the nasty things I said

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Originally posted by Raven69
Define "strong".
In your case it could be chess player which (in your opinion) plays better than you.

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Originally posted by Korch
In your case it could be chess player which (in your opinion) plays better than you.
strong=people who don't play 1. ... h5

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
strong=people who don't play 1. ... h5
You misunderstood me - I want him to show game in which he have won stronger player with black using his 1...h5

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Originally posted by Korch
You misunderstood me - I want him to show game in which he have won stronger player with black using his 1...h5
oh...
in that case...
i'd love to see a game...
where does your engine put the position after
1. e4 h5?
2. d4 h4?
3. h3 c6
4. Nf3 d5
5. Nc3

just curious

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Originally posted by Raven69
My point exactly. I'm sure people thought the Caro-Kann showed no potential either. 1...h5 will grow in popularity, just you wait and see...!
The difference with the Caro-Kann is that c6 supports a square in the centre, and doesn't weaken the kingside. Tony Miles once famously beat Karpov with 1. e4 a6, but the difference with Tony Miles is that he prepared the opening carefully as a one off weapon to beat a particular opponent with something unusual that also had a point to it and never repeated the experiment. 1. ... h5 on the other hand gives every appearance of being total detritus.

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
oh...
in that case...
i'd love to see a game...
where does your engine put the position after
1. e4 h5?
2. d4 h4?
3. h3 c6
4. Nf3 d5
5. Nc3

just curious
After 3 minutes thinking rybka rates it only abut 0,50 in whites favour.

btw. According to engine white dont need to play h3 and develop like Nc3-Nf3 ect. because black h-pawn seems absolutely harmless

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Originally posted by Korch
After 3 minutes thinking rybka rates it only abut 0,50 in whites favour.

btw. According to engine white dont need to play h3 and develop like Nc3-Nf3 ect. because black h-pawn seems absolutely useless
ok, so h3 is unnecessary?
meaning that white ends up with 2 extra tempi at his disposal?
so, let's try this line...
1. e4 h5?
2. d4 h4?

what does Rybka give as best?
any developing move other than Nf3?
i wouldn't play Nf3 because then h3 just doubles up my pawns on h for one pawn...
yuck!

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
ok, so h3 is unnecessary?
meaning that white ends up with 2 extra tempi at his disposal?
so, let's try this line...
1. e4 h5?
2. d4 h4?

what does Rybka give as best?
any developing move other than Nf3?
i wouldn't play Nf3 because then h3 just doubles up my pawns on h for one pawn...
yuck!
About 0,40. Engine shows that black can play 4...b5 5.Bd3 (5.Bb3 b4 6.Nce2 Nf6 is not so good for white) b4 6.Nce2 Nf6 with not so bad position. White dont need to move their bishops too early. Better is to move both knights first.

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Originally posted by Korch
About 0,40. Engine shows that black can play 4...b5 5.Bd3 (5.Bb3 b4 6.Nce2 Nf6 is not so good for white) b4 6.Nce2 Nf6 with not so bad position. White dont need to move their bishops too early. Better is to move both knights first.
P.S. After 4...b5 5.Bd3 b4 6.Nce2 Nf6 rybka advices 7.h3 as best. Perhaps because white squared bishop is moved.

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Originally posted by Korch
P.S. After 4...b5 5.Bd3 b4 6.Nce2 Nf6 rybka advices 7.h3 as best. Perhaps because white squared bishop is moved.
can you run Rybka over my game in the Exchange French Thread...
thanks...

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
can you run Rybka over my game in the Exchange French Thread...
thanks...
Maybe next day - I`m gonna sleep now.

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