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Hmm.... I have any other idee.
11.... Nxd5 !? If white don´t take the N white follow with Nf6.
So 12.cxd5 Qa5+ 13.Bd2 Qxd5 or 13.Nc3 Bxc3 14.bxc3 Qxc3 15.Bd2 Qe5+ and black is alive and white center-pawns are history.

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Originally posted by kbaumen
Sorry, my bad.

2)13. ... Bxh8 14. Qh5 Rf5 (14. ... Rf7 15. gxf7+ Kg7 16. Qxg5, if 16. ... Kf8 then 17. Qg8#, if 16. ... Kh7 then 17. Bd3🙄 15. Qh7+ Kf8+ 16. Qxh8#
No worries - I was simply curious not criticizing you. 🙂 I think you are right after all! Bh8/Rf8/Qh5 setup Black to move white threatens h7 mate, rook moves, white mates with h7, h8.

I simply never considered the Bxh line all the way through. Very good. 🙂

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Originally posted by bosintang
...hxg6?? and white responds Qg4, Qh3, and Qh7#. Black has no moves to stop this mate.

I'm thinking Qe8 is black's only hope, but it's fading.
if he doesn't then Qh5

even if Qe8 white can still play Qh5

11...Qe8 12.Qh5 Qxg6 13.Bd3 Qxh5 14.Rxh5 h6 15.Bxg5 is commanding for white...but I think after Qe8 there are better options than Qh5.

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Originally posted by DagamoStyle
Hmm.... I have any other idee.
11.... Nxd5 !? If white don´t take the N white follow with Nf6.
So 12.cxd5 Qa5+ 13.Bd2 Qxd5 or 13.Nc3 Bxc3 14.bxc3 Qxc3 15.Bd2 Qe5+ and black is alive and white center-pawns are history.
11...Nxd5 and what about Bxg5 guarding f6...11...Nxd5 12.Bxg5 Nf6 13.Bxf6 Bxf6 14.Qh5

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11...Nxd5 12.Bxg5 Nf6 13.Bxf6 Rxf6 and if 14.Qh5 Rxe6+ and then hxg6 or 14.Rxh7 Qb6 with attack on point f2 and b2. Whites pawn on e6 is weak.

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Originally posted by schakuhr
[fen]rnbq1rk1/pp2p1bp/1nppP1p1/3P2pP/2P5/8/PP3PP1/RNBQKB1R[/fen]

1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.d4 d6 4.Nf3 g6 5.Ng5 f6 6.c4 Nb6 7.e6 fxg5 8.d5 Bg7 9.h4 0-0 10.h5 c6
Okay...I think black has an advantage after Bxg5? by white..but Nxd5 and white just plays gxh7+..I think black has an advantage in the position after hxg6 and all he has to play is 11...h6.

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Originally posted by DagamoStyle
11...Nxd5 12.Bxg5 Nf6 13.Bxf6 Rxf6 and if 14.Qh5 Rxe6+ and then hxg6 or 14.Rxh7 Qb6 with attack on point f2 and b2. Whites pawn on e6 is weak.
but what if 11..Nxd5 12. Qh5 ?

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Originally posted by bosintang
but what if 11..Nxd5 12. Qh5 ?
then 12...Nf6 and black still has an advantage.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
then 12...Nf6 and black still has an advantage.
Good eye. Let's assume 11...Nxd5 12. cxd5 is played. What does black play then? Qe8?

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Originally posted by bosintang
...hxg6?? and white responds Qg4, Qh3, and Qh7#. Black has no moves to stop this mate.

I'm thinking Qe8 is black's only hope, but it's fading.
woah woah woah...no moves to stop this mate?...how about simply playing Rf5? I think that hxg6 is a plausible move...even holds the advantage for black.

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Originally posted by bosintang
Good eye. Let's assume 11...Nxd5 12. cxd5 is played. What does black play then? Qe8?
Qa5+ or simply hxg6

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Originally posted by bosintang
Good eye. Let's assume 11...Nxd5 12. cxd5 is played. What does black play then? Qe8?
My idee is based on 12... Qa5+

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Originally posted by DagamoStyle
My idee is based on 12... Qa5+
I think you're on to something...it's definitely a more active move than Qe8 and gives black some play rather than just reacting to white's moves.

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11. hxg6 hxg6

I don't think hxg6 is the best move here but somebody said it was very bad for black.

11... Nxd5 12. gxh7+ Kh8 13. cxd5 Qa5+ 14. Qd2 [i]
and white has the advantage here I believe with blacks king immobilized mating threats hang in the air along with quite a few promotion tactics.

12. Qg4 Rf5 13. Qh3 cxd5

[i]13... Re5+ 14. Kd1 cxd5 15. Qh7+ Kf8 16. Qh8+ Bxh8 17. Rxh8+ Kg7 18. Rxd8 Nc6
19. Re8 dxc4

14. Qh7+ Kf8 15. Qh8+ Bxh8 16. Rxh8+ Kg7 17. Rxd8 Nc6 18. Re8 Re5+ 19.Kd1 dxc4

my analysis so far...I don't think many comments on the moves are necessary as I have left a ton out...I will post a more detailed analysis in the near future.

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11... Nxd5 12. gxh7+ Kh8 13. cxd5 Qa5+ 14. Qd2 Qxd5.
I think you nead to reconsider this position. Blacks K is in shelter of whites pawn. Imo the white h-pawn is helping black. The only problem is if white get a Ng6# but the N is far away right now. I think that the position is unclear.

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