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Originally posted by FabianFnas
This game is still in its opening phase, don't you agree?
But when does it progresses into the middle phase? Is there such a criteria? Like moving a rook (except for castling), or the queen, or perhaps exchanging knights or bishops?

Please, can anyone keep an eye on the progressing of the game and give me a hint when it turns from opening game to a middle game...?
Yes, this is still the opening. There are no hard & fast rules as to when a game shifts from the opening to the middlegame. I generally consider the middlegame to start when both sides have developed (most of) their pieces and secured their king.

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You will feel it in your gut when the opening ends and the middlegame starts.

Put me down for 4.d4

I got 3/5 so far. Right ones d5,exd5,exd5. I didn't guess for move 2w since It's the opening and a guess is a good as well nothing, 1.c4 e6? exactly my point! 🙂

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1. c4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. Nf3

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White is hoping for black to make naive moves.
4. ... Nf6 is definitely good.

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There are two main possibilities: 4...d4 and 4...Nf6

The former gains space while the latter puts the knight where it is obviously going to go, and prepares to castle short.

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I have to go with 4...Nf6 also

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Me too 4...Nf6.

This game was not played by masters was it? Or maybe it was but way way back in the day.

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1. c4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. Nf3 Nf6

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www.chesslab.com quote only six games with this position, with these final results:
+1 =2 -3 ( one draw was a quick one and the other one was a real disaster for black pieces who couldnt win with 4 pawns in advantage ! 😠 ... )

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5.d4

though white is worse anyway

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Originally posted by jcoblitas68
www.chesslab.com quote only six games with this position, with these final results:
+1 =2 -3 ( one draw was a quick one and the other one was a real disaster for black pieces who couldnt win with 4 pawns in advantage ! 😠 ... )
ChessBase has +9 =6 -18. Though only one of those games got there through this move order. The rest were 1. e4 d5 or 1. e4 e6.

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I would try 5.cxd and after recapture (knight probably) 6.Nc3. Hoping to reduce the damage.

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I think I like 5. d4 better than 5. cxd, but then again, I'm not Mephisto.

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yeah, i think d4 is best too.

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Originally posted by jcoblitas68
www.chesslab.com quote only six games with this position, with these final results:
+1 =2 -3 ( one draw was a quick one and the other one was a real disaster for black pieces who couldnt win with 4 pawns in advantage ! 😠 ... )
Be very careful with games on chesslab.com.

They could be played by anyone and who knows maybe the players are worse then you?

Most databases have a minimum rating.
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