Originally posted by rubberjaw301.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5!?
whats the opening moves for the Traxler?
I haven't seen it yet...
White must then play either the losing move Nxf7 or accept a much slower death through the losing move Bxf7+ 🙂.
I still swear this line is winning for black 🙂.
Originally posted by ih8sensYour talking nonsense!!
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5!?
White must then play either the losing move Nxf7 or accept a much slower death through the losing move Bxf7+ 🙂.
I still swear this line is winning for black 🙂.
Nxf7 is NOT losing!
I will play a friendly game with it and see how you do okay?
Originally posted by najdorfslayersold man. I'm interested to see this line 'refuted' ... I've been trying to do it myself after I found all my 'brilliant wins' and I just can't.. I can't beat myself when I play this line out myself, black always wins 😛.
Your talking nonsense!!
Nxf7 is NOT losing!
I will play a friendly game with it and see how you do okay?
Send one over though man, I really look forward to it, you're probably just the player I need to humble me... and if you can't Korch will (grob grob grob, shut up man!). 😛.
Originally posted by ih8sensAccording to the latest theory 5.Nxf7, 5.Bxf7+, and 5.d4 are all good for white.
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5!?
White must then play either the losing move Nxf7 or accept a much slower death through the losing move Bxf7+ 🙂.
I still swear this line is winning for black 🙂.
Originally posted by Northern Ladd4 is something I haven't looked into yet... Bxf7+ is very dangerous for white if black chooses (as they most likely will) a tactical line (ask Red Night 🙂).
According to the latest theory 5.Nxf7, 5.Bxf7+, and 5.d4 are all good for white.
Nxf7 Probably draws with perfect play (as does the other two I'm sure, though I haven't analyzed the other two enough to say it with conviction).
My guess through all the analysis I've done is that the Traxler is sound, maybe not winning but certainly good for black.
If you're under 2000 on this site I'd definitely suggest it. It's especially good in OTB chess, where it can be, and is (okay, was, no one plays it anymore 😛) effective, all the way up to the grandmaster level.