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Traxler is Sound!

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Originally posted by rubberjaw30
whats the opening moves for the Traxler?
I haven't seen it yet...
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5!?

White must then play either the losing move Nxf7 or accept a much slower death through the losing move Bxf7+ 🙂.

I still swear this line is winning for black 🙂.

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Originally posted by ih8sens
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5!?

White must then play either the losing move Nxf7 or accept a much slower death through the losing move Bxf7+ 🙂.

I still swear this line is winning for black 🙂.
Your talking nonsense!!

Nxf7 is NOT losing!

I will play a friendly game with it and see how you do okay?

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Originally posted by najdorfslayer
Your talking nonsense!!

Nxf7 is NOT losing!

I will play a friendly game with it and see how you do okay?
sold man. I'm interested to see this line 'refuted' ... I've been trying to do it myself after I found all my 'brilliant wins' and I just can't.. I can't beat myself when I play this line out myself, black always wins 😛.

Send one over though man, I really look forward to it, you're probably just the player I need to humble me... and if you can't Korch will (grob grob grob, shut up man!). 😛.

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Originally posted by ih8sens
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5!?

White must then play either the losing move Nxf7 or accept a much slower death through the losing move Bxf7+ 🙂.

I still swear this line is winning for black 🙂.
According to the latest theory 5.Nxf7, 5.Bxf7+, and 5.d4 are all good for white.

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Originally posted by Northern Lad
According to the latest theory 5.Nxf7, 5.Bxf7+, and 5.d4 are all good for white.
d4 is something I haven't looked into yet... Bxf7+ is very dangerous for white if black chooses (as they most likely will) a tactical line (ask Red Night 🙂).

Nxf7 Probably draws with perfect play (as does the other two I'm sure, though I haven't analyzed the other two enough to say it with conviction).

My guess through all the analysis I've done is that the Traxler is sound, maybe not winning but certainly good for black.

If you're under 2000 on this site I'd definitely suggest it. It's especially good in OTB chess, where it can be, and is (okay, was, no one plays it anymore 😛) effective, all the way up to the grandmaster level.

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