@divegeester
Besides that, who gives a rats ass if Clinton thinks the moon landing was faked?
I wonder why MH is denying there are retroreflectors on the moon, won't that make his boss Putin mad because two of them are Russian? He clearly doesn't understand the difference between reflections off the surface of the moon and all the hills and valleys that would smear the time signature of the return photons and the time signature of returns from a mirror which would always be the same except for the movement of the moon itself which I think is receding at a couple cm a year which was shown by the dudes doing the laser work.
@sonhouse saidRussians did not walk on the moon so how did Russia get retroreflectors on the moon and when did it happen? Why would they bother if there were already retroreflectors on the moon?
@divegeester
Besides that, who gives a rats ass if Clinton thinks the moon landing was faked?
I wonder why MH is denying there are retroreflectors on the moon, won't that make his boss Putin mad because two of them are Russian? He clearly doesn't understand the difference between reflections off the surface of the moon and all the hills and valleys that would smear the tim ...[text shortened]... f which I think is receding at a couple cm a year which was shown by the dudes doing the laser work.
Furthermore, why would they have to at all if you can measure the distance between the earth and moon without them?
@Metal-Brain
Are you really that stupid and misinformed? You didn't see the rovers Russia put up? They did that before Apollo, several months earlier and one in 73.
You don't seem to be able to understand the difference between a laser measurement without reflectors and with them.
How many times do I have to explain the difference?
Why don't you do actual thinking about the difference.
If it won't tax your lacking brain power too much.
So without reflectors, you shoot a powerful laser beam to the moon, its the surface in a large area, filled with hills and valleys and such, so timing the returns yields a large variation in the distance measurement so there is no way to know which one is accurate, but a retroreflector has one position, with variations only by the movement of the entire moon, both around Earth in its varying orbit and the now known slow recession from Earth which is about a couple centimeters per year, and in order to have figured that one out, it would have been totally impossible before the advent of retroreflectors because lasers hitting the surface can only peg the distance to the moon in terms of MILES not inches or cm.
Retroreflectors give an unambiguous reading and there are 5 of them up there now which all can be used by anyone with the proper laser equipment.
Does that help to understand the difference? So a laser beam hits a mountain a mile higher than flat land, what do you think happens to the return photons in terms of the timing? One mile is about 6 microseconds, that is about the time it takes light or radio waves to travel one mile. So that beam reflects the flat land and say a hill 2,000 feet high also and you get a smear of return times which makes it near impossible to figure out the distance to the moon based on those return photons unless there is a retroreflector giving a precise return time, so 1 microsecond accuracy gives a distance accurate to 1/6th of a mile, so one nanosecond accuracy gives an accuracy of a few feet but the timing can be be much more accurate than one nanosecond, into attosecond region, which is why they get those few centimeter accuracy.
Why can't you just google this stuff?
@sonhouse saidYou just proved man does not have to go to the moon to put reflectors there. LOL!
@Metal-Brain
Are you really that stupid and misinformed? You didn't see the rovers Russia put up? They did that before Apollo, several months earlier and one in 73.
You don't seem to be able to understand the difference between a laser measurement without reflectors and with them.
How many times do I have to explain the difference?
Why don't you do actual thinking about ...[text shortened]... region, which is why they get those few centimeter accuracy.
Why can't you just google this stuff?
You just stepped on your own dick. 😛
@Metal-Brain
We SEE it because of the laser photon returns giving a near exact distance to the moon. They use five of them, two Russian and two Apollo.
@Metal-Brain
Whether men or robots put them there, in fact robots put the Russian mirrors in place and there are 5 there now so what do you think you are proving?
You are really going to piss off your boss Putin if you keep putting down Russian probes.
@sonhouse saidMirrors can be put on the moon unmanned. You are proving that, not me.
@Metal-Brain
Whether men or robots put them there, in fact robots put the Russian mirrors in place and there are 5 there now so what do you think you are proving?
You are really going to piss off your boss Putin if you keep putting down Russian probes.
Why couldn't Russia just use the mirrors the USA put there?