16 Jun 14
Originally posted by 64squaresofpainalso below my dignity and majesty, join a zombie apocalypse you brain dead scavenger and you can slobber and drool until your hearts content.
Still talking the same old rubbish... seriously, you're like a scratched record but with increased usage of a thesaurus as you go along.
If it's true that ignorance is bliss, then you must be the happiest person on the planet.
17 Jun 14
I'm certain you don't care much for my meanderings with this topic, but there is a dangerous prescident occuring with this incident. And i'm certain this is going to be followed by other moments were the government will 'step in' to "save" a child or elderly person.
To the Christians i say be weary. Just think of it. Getting the chip implanted. Right hand, forehead. And the government saying "we are doing it for the women and children." By this time it will be too late, your protests will go without any support, all because you agreed with these first incidents.
17 Jun 14
Originally posted by PudgenikThat gets a - 🙄
I'm certain you don't care much for my meanderings with this topic, but there is a dangerous prescident occuring with this incident. And i'm certain this is going to be followed by other moments were the government will 'step in' to "save" a child or elderly person.
To the Christians i say be weary. Just think of it. Getting the chip implanted. Right han ...[text shortened]... e, your protests will go without any support, all because you agreed with these first incidents.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow very convenient for you. It seems you enjoy having a loud opinion about almost everything except the topic of this thread which you have lurked over for several pages and have finally plucked up the courage to wriggle your worthless alleged ambivalence between the gaps in strong opinion while lambasting everyone else who questions you.
No personal views on the matter.
17 Jun 14
Originally posted by stellspalfie18 I believe by law is the age of adults for almost all things. I'd also point
what age limit would you set before the child gets to decide for themselves?
out to you that with girls they can get an abortion over objections at any
age and parents don't have to be informed about the whole process. So as
I pointed out, the state can and will do what it wants over the objection and
as soon as it is in complete charge of health care it will set all the rules for
it and all things soon enough.
Kelly
17 Jun 14
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Originally posted by PudgenikYou are supposed to be in subjection to the government or does Romans chapter 13 mean nothing to you?
I'm certain you don't care much for my meanderings with this topic, but there is a dangerous prescident occuring with this incident. And i'm certain this is going to be followed by other moments were the government will 'step in' to "save" a child or elderly person.
To the Christians i say be weary. Just think of it. Getting the chip implanted. Right han ...[text shortened]... e, your protests will go without any support, all because you agreed with these first incidents.
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17 Jun 14
Originally posted by KellyJayso in kellyjays world a 17yr old begging the doctors to ignore his jw parents who are refusing him blood would be at his parents mercy, regardless of what religion he followed???? you would demand the doctors stand by and listen to the young man cry for his life for no other reason than his parents chose one particular christian denomination than another.
18 I believe by law is the age of adults for almost all things. I'd also point
out to you that with girls they can get an abortion over objections at any
age and parents don't have to be informed about the whole process. So as
I pointed out, the state can and will do what it wants over the objection and
as soon as it is in complete charge of health care it will set all the rules for
it and all things soon enough.
Kelly
17 Jun 14
Originally posted by stellspalfieI have said earlier in more than one spot, I do not care where you draw
so in kellyjays world a 17yr old begging the doctors to ignore his jw parents who are refusing him blood would be at his parents mercy, regardless of what religion he followed???? you would demand the doctors stand by and listen to the young man cry for his life for no other reason than his parents chose one particular christian denomination than another.
the line of this is good or bad. Some where on your side of it, can be very
bad things, evil even. Blanket statements tend to give us these things
more so than anything else. I could have lowered the age to 17 years old
than the 16 year old would have the same issue.
You can have a 21 year old that the family wants to keep alive and some
one else says no, even with the 21 year old begging for his life.
Kelly
17 Jun 14
Originally posted by KellyJayYou can have a 21 year old that the family wants to keep alive and some
I have said earlier in more than one spot, I do not care where you draw
the line of this is good or bad. Some where on your side of it, can be very
bad things, evil even. Blanket statements tend to give us these things
more so than anything else. I could have lowered the age to 17 years old
than the 16 year old would have the same issue.
You can have ...[text shortened]... to keep alive and some
one else says no, even with the 21 year old begging for his life.
Kelly
one else says no, even with the 21 year old begging for his life.
Give me a scenario, explaining how this could happen.
17 Jun 14
Originally posted by Proper KnobLook at the VA hospital crises now, these guys want care, they are sent
[b]You can have a 21 year old that the family wants to keep alive and some
one else says no, even with the 21 year old begging for his life.
Give me a scenario, explaining how this could happen.[/b]
home with a come back later for another appointment. It is happening
a lot, but not with just 21 year olds. 17T dollars in debt and counting does
have an affect that means there are limited funds for care. It can also
happen that cost for life saving care are high so that instead of spending the
money, give a pill for comfort is offered, which was Obama's answer for
a lady talking about an operation for her mother. Limited funds mean we
spend it on some and not others.
Kelly
17 Jun 14
Originally posted by KellyJayVA crisis? I live in England, I don't have my finger on the pulse of the cut and thrust of US politics.
Look at the VA hospital crises now, these guys want care, they are sent
home with a come back later for another appointment. It is happening
a lot, but not with just 21 year olds. 17T dollars in debt and counting does
have an affect that means there are limited funds for care. It can also
happen that cost for life saving care are high so that instead of ...[text shortened]... bout an operation for her mother. Limited funds mean we
spend it on some and not others.
Kelly
Originally posted by Proper KnobYou would get more details reading about it on the web, even BBC covered
VA crisis? I live in England, I don't have my finger on the pulse of the cut and thrust of US politics.
it. At a very high level they were/are not giving people proper care.
They would delay care, having people get seen and setup Vets that needed
care right away. They were getting bonus' for making sure that everyone
was dealt within a 14 day window, so what they started doing was changing
the dates to reflect 14 days. There are many ways to not give proper care
from just offering some care that doesn't deal with the issue, but instead
offer a less costly time consuming one instead. You don't bring up would could
cure you, bring up the less costly make them comfortable option instead
like as I said Obama said when he said give the old mother a pill instead of
dealing with her needs.
I used to play chess at another web site and one of the players was from
Canada, he needed care for his heart. He was all setup, but his care was
out months and he died while playing chess online.
Kelly