A question of honesty

Originally posted by Suzianne
...you promote this quote of sonship's at this precise time in the thread for a reason. The reason is that you are, in fact, advising him in this way and wish to misdirect by claiming "it's all sonship's idea".

No, not at all. You're barking up the wrong tree. divegeester and I have discussed the "eternal torture" ideology numerous times in private and here in this public arena. I have never once advised him to reject the Bible. I will retract this statement and apologise, without hesitation, if he comes along and states that I have.

Originally posted by FMF
I am not suggesting that divegeester reject the Bible. I have never suggested to you that you reject the Bible. I have never suggested to sonship that he reject the Bible.

"according to sonship"... "in sonship's view"...

You think this covers you adequately? As if.

Originally posted by Suzianne
"according to sonship"... "in sonship's view"...

You think this covers you adequately? As if.

"Covers" me in what way? What "cover" is it you think I need?

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Did you feel I was advising you to discard the whole bible by quoting sonship's assertions about the deal-breaker status of his notion of divine "justice"?

Originally posted by FMF
No, not at all. You're barking up the wrong tree. divegeester and I have discussed the "eternal torture" ideology numerous times in private and here in this public arena. I have never once advised him to reject the Bible. I will retract this statement and apologise, without hesitation, if he comes along and states that I have.

And in any case, perhaps an apology to sonship for using his quote in a way he certainly never intended just to promote your own agenda is in order.

Originally posted by Suzianne
And in any case, perhaps an apology to sonship for using his quote in a way he certainly never intended just to promote your own agenda is in order.

sonship is free to mount his own defence of what he said.

Originally posted by FMF
sonship is free to mount his own defence of what he said.

But he cannot defend what you said.

Originally posted by Suzianne
But he cannot defend what you said.

sonship can say whatever he wants about what I said, in the same way as you say whatever you want about what I say. This is a public forum for debate and discussion after all.

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I think she is rather too distracted by her own flailing fists to follow what's going on. 😀

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FMF italicized "you must discard the Bible". It was obviously his entire reason for bringing the quote up to begin with.

"I don't accept the doctrine of eternal punishment nor that the entire bible should be discarded even if one does reject any doctrine."

Of course. This is why I called FMF out for his advice, which he disguised as sonship's advice.

"Sonship is concrete in his somewhat strange views on this and the "people on other worlds" thing. In fact I find his whole Christian perspective to be rather strange now these beliefs he holds have been revealed."

I find sonship's faith refreshing in this forum of relatively weak-faith Christians. His heart is in the right place, even if he is "too verbose" or "strange" for some. His basic message is always true to his faith.