Spirituality
08 Nov 14
15 Nov 14
Originally posted by RJHinds"He [divegeester] deserves to be thrown in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone with Satan and his demons"
[b]Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Mark 16:16[/b]
Can you please explain why you think I should be burnt alive for all eternity?
Originally posted by galveston75Your own spiritual mindmap is on full display here, galveston75. Tell me, theologically speaking, do you think divegeester is wrong to oppose and condemn the "eternal torture" ideology, the reason why some of its proponents have called him a "Christian basher"?
I'm not back and in fact I'm supprised I've even had time to check this site this morning. My parents are doing worse, my wife has been in the hospital with emergency surgery.
But frankly the reason I will not come back is because of you "dive dude".
Yeah before you slithered in and ruined it this forum was interesting and something I looked forward ...[text shortened]... ays are numbered.
But...you will soon know who Jehovah is my friend. Good luck with that....
15 Nov 14
Originally posted by galveston75Warmest wishes to you and your family. My thoughts are with you. I hope everything works out alright.
I'm not back and in fact I'm supprised I've even had time to check this site this morning. My parents are doing worse, my wife has been in the hospital with emergency surgery.
15 Nov 14
Originally posted by divegeesterFirst, you are a sinner. And second, you don't believe in eternal torment.
[b]"He [divegeester] deserves to be thrown in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone with Satan and his demons"
Can you please explain why you think I should be burnt alive for all eternity?[/b]
Originally posted by galveston75Another point of theology that may have earned divegeester a bit of ribbing for being a "basher" is his implacable rejection of the notion of the "Trinity" as being "extra-Biblical" and [if I recall the debates correctly] related to pre-Christian or non-Christian pagan concepts. Have you found yourself in agreement with divegeester on this issue?
But you have taken over the spiritual forum with..yes..your Christian bashing which is as dangerous as satan himself being here as your goal is nothing more then to tear down anyone that has love for their god and all the good things he stands for no matter their opinion.
15 Nov 14
Originally posted by RJHindsOK. So I should be burnt alive for eternity because I'm the same as every other human being who has ever lived and that I don't believe in the punishment of not believing in the nature of my eternal state.
First, you are a sinner. And second, you don't believe in eternal torment.
Some here have accused me as a Christian who has more on common with atheists; I wonder why.
16 Nov 14
Originally posted by divegeesterI can tell you why.
OK. So I should be burnt alive for eternity because I'm the same as every other human being who has ever lived and that I don't believe in the punishment of not believing in the nature of my eternal state.
Some here have accused me as a Christian who has more on common with atheists; I wonder why.
Everyone places their opinions and the opinion of others into little boxes that they label according to their own biases.
Your little box labeled "Christian" doesn't match the opinions found in their little box labeled "Christian".
Certainly there's more to it than that, but that's the basis of it.
16 Nov 14
Originally posted by SuzianneSeeing as divegeester is a follower of Christ, which he clearly is, and which he has demonstrated here for several years, don't you think it's a bit peculiar for Christians to call him an "atheist" and "as dangerous as satan himself" and yet you never seem to call people out for it? Are you sure that you yourself transcend this "little box" situation you have described?
I can tell you why.
Everyone places their opinions and the opinion of others into little boxes that they label according to their own biases.
Your little box labeled "Christian" doesn't match the opinions found in their little box labeled "Christian".
Certainly there's more to it than that, but that's the basis of it.
16 Nov 14
Originally posted by FMFYes but that does not mean he is a Christian does it? No. It only means he understands the trinity and it's origin.
Another point of theology that may have earned divegeester a bit of ribbing for being a "basher" is his implacable rejection of the notion of the "Trinity" as being "extra-Biblical" and [if I recall the debates correctly] related to pre-Christian or non-Christian pagan concepts. Have you found yourself in agreement with divegeester on this issue?
Many non Christians also do not believe the trinity.
Also many so called Christians have had much wrong in their understanding of what a Christian is and what their demeanor is to be with others. Saul was one. He truly believed he was doing right in God's eyes but it turned out he wasn't close.....
Perhaps Dive Dude fits into that situation..... Jehovah will let him know one way or the other in time.
16 Nov 14
Originally posted by RJHindsThanks...
I am sorry you JWs felt you had to leave. I love you guys even though we disagreed on many things. I agree with you about divegeester. He deserves to be thrown in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone with Satan and his demons. However, bad as it might seem, Jesus might forgive him of all his sins regardless of what we think. May you have joy during this coming holiday season and may the Holy Spirit take care of your family.
16 Nov 14
Originally posted by galveston75Yes but it's clear he is a Christian from his postings here for many years. We know he's not a Jehovah's Witness, of course, but just because he's vocal about that and because he is unimpressed by your posting style, and says so ~ how do you get from that to him 'not being a Christian'?
Yes but that does not mean he is a Christian does it? No. It only means he understands the trinity and it's origin. Many non Christians also do not believe the trinity.
16 Nov 14
Originally posted by galveston75This just seems to be criticism of him for not being a Jehovah's Witness. Surely you accept that Christians can be Christians with necessarily being Jehovah's Witnesses?
Also many so called Christians have had much wrong in their understanding of what a Christian is and what their demeanor is to be with others. Saul was one. He truly believed he was doing right in God's eyes but it turned out he wasn't close..... Perhaps Dive Dude fits into that situation..... Jehovah will let him know one way or the other in time.
Originally posted by divegeesterChrist taught an everlasting torment for unrepentant sinners in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone. There were a couple of threads that went into great detail on this, but you have stubbornly refused to repent and believe what Christ taught. So is it going to take you being thrown in there and experiencing everlasting torment to believe Christ?
OK. So I should be burnt alive for eternity because I'm the same as every other human being who has ever lived and that I don't believe in the punishment of not believing in the nature of my eternal state.
Some here have accused me as a Christian who has more on common with atheists; I wonder why.