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11 Oct 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkSo, he stopped drinking alcohol, but clearly still had some compulsion to drink. What would you call that?
Actually my grandfather was an alcoholic and even though he stopped drinking alcohol he substituted the alcohol with fizzy drinks, developed diabetes which killed him.
Also, it was the sugar that killed him. Diabetes is the bodies failure to properly handle sugar.
Diabetes is the name of the disease. You do not stop having diabetes just because you stop taking sugar.
Originally posted by twhiteheadSo someone who has a compulsion to drink 'fizzy drinks' is now also an alcoholic? 😲
So, he stopped drinking alcohol, but clearly still had some compulsion to drink. What would you call that?
Also, it was the sugar that killed him. Diabetes is the bodies failure to properly handle sugar.
Diabetes is the name of the disease. You do not stop having diabetes just because you stop taking sugar.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkHe is an addict, ie he experiences compulsions. He is only an alcoholic if he still experiences compulsion for alcohol. If he is drinking the fizzy drinks in order to control his compulsion for alcohol then he is still an alcoholic. If he no longer feels compulsions for alcohol but does feel compulsions for fizzy drinks then he is a fizzy-drink-aholic.
So someone who has a compulsion to drink 'fizzy drinks' is now also an alcoholic? 😲
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/-aholic
Note how the definition for '-aholic' says nothing about whether or not a person is able to satisfy their compulsions.
Originally posted by apathistThe words I typed are still there, in this thread. If you require a repeat, as I have suggested, you may feel free to re-read them.
Believe what? Addiction is a choice, you disagree but won't explain why. You say you already have explained - so a simple cut-n-paste would work. Since you find your comments unworthy of being repeated, why should I find them worthy of hunting down?
Originally posted by twhiteheadSo someone who can 'control' their compulsion to drink alcohol is an alcoholic? If I have a compulsion to drink alcohol yet I have never given in to that compulsion, you would still call me an alcoholic even if I have never had a drop of alcohol in my entire life?
He is an addict, ie he experiences compulsions. He is only an alcoholic if he still experiences compulsion for alcohol. If he is drinking the fizzy drinks in order to control his compulsion for alcohol then he is still an alcoholic. If he no longer feels compulsions for alcohol but does feel compulsions for fizzy drinks then he is a fizzy-drink-aholic.
...[text shortened]... n for '-aholic' says nothing about whether or not a person is able to satisfy their compulsions.
I assume that by 'compulsion' you are referring to "a very strong desire to do something", rather than, "an irresistible persistent impulse to perform an act"?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compulsion
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkThere are many published resources detailing the investigations into the nature of addiction. From a cursory appraisal, it looks like this one gives a pretty good overview of the current understanding of the physiological changes in the brain.
So someone who can 'control' their compulsion to drink alcohol is an alcoholic? If I have a compulsion to drink alcohol yet I have never given in to that compulsion, you would still call me an alcoholic even if I have never had a drop of alcohol in my entire life?
I assume that by 'compulsion' you are referring to "a very strong desire to do something ...[text shortened]... e persistent impulse to perform an act"?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/compulsion
http://web.as.uky.edu/biology/faculty/cooper/Bio380-Neurophysiology%20seminar/neural%20basis%20of%20addiction-Thompson.pdf
12 Oct 16
Originally posted by avalanchethecatCool, please quote the text that you think answers the questions I was addressing to Twhitehead. Thanks.
There are many published resources detailing the investigations into the nature of addiction. From a cursory appraisal, it looks like this one gives a pretty good overview of the current understanding of the physiological changes in the brain.
http://web.as.uky.edu/biology/faculty/cooper/Bio380-Neurophysiology%20seminar/neural%20basis%20of%20addiction-Thompson.pdf
12 Oct 16
Originally posted by avalanchethecatI read the conclusion and see no reason why someone who can control their 'compulsion' to drink should be called an alcoholic.
The conclusions are clearly stated under the heading 'conclusions' (in bold, first page). Is your first time looking at a peer reviewed scientific paper?