Spirituality
27 Sep 16
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneNo sir. You're putting energy into this, but its not directed toward honest communication. I don't understand trolls, I assume they're lazy, but maybe they aren't. I definitely sense your first post was like a fly caster who sees a promising hole. You have done nothing since except act goofy. Move on or get real.
I can understand why you edited out the majority of my post, since it's embarrassing for you. ...
09 Oct 16
Originally posted by apathistI can understand why you edited out the majority of my post, since it's embarrassing for you. Calling me a "troll" doesn't change the facts stated in my post. Nor does continuing to refuse to admit that you were wrong. Nor did editing out the majority of my post.
No sir. You're putting energy into this, but its not directed toward honest communication. I don't understand trolls, I assume they're lazy, but maybe they aren't. I definitely sense your first post was like a fly caster who sees a promising hole. You have done nothing since except act goofy. Move on or get real.
Here is my post in its entirety:
Seems you failed to understand the distinction between someone calling you an idiot and someone stating that you were "[pretending] to not understand simple concepts even after it's spelled out for you rather than admit that you were wrong" and how you "would rather appear an idiot rather than admit it.".
Just as you failed to understand that my saying that "addiction might best be understood as a maturity issue" does not in any way imply that "they had no maturity at all at any level about anything" as well as other things.
So perhaps there isn't any "pretending" going on whatsoever. I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. I stand corrected.
09 Oct 16
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkI would say that definition 2b fair hits the mark. I expect you will read 'marked by' and triumphantly declare that this means that one is not an alcoholic if one is no longer demonstrating 'excessive and usually compulsive...' etc. I suppose this may reflect a less than optimal choice of wording, and I daresay that if one were to examine the entire dictionary with such a pedantic mindset one might quibble with many more. Regardless of the definition, if you ever meet an alcoholic and are able to talk frankly and openly about his or her condition, you will find that everything I have been trying to tell you is quite true.
[b] Many alcoholics don't drink.
So you are saying everyone that had an alcohol addiction in the past is an 'alcoholic for life' and no alcoholic can ever stop being an alcoholic even if they never have a drop of alcohol ever again? By implication can someone who has never had a drop of alcohol in their entire life also be an alcoholic without kn ...[text shortened]... you say follow any of these definitions. If you have a better definition feel free to share it.[/b]
It is pretty clear by now that the reason you wish to categorise this condition about which you obviously lack first- or second-hand experience in a manner to accord with your rather naive position is simply another dreary effort at internet-argument point scoring. Is this endeavour bringing you a great deal of satisfaction?
10 Oct 16
Originally posted by apathistI don't feel a need to engage in point-scoring over the internet, I was just explaining some stuff. Whether you believe it or not is entirely your choice.
Since you agree that the points in your posts are not worth restating, well then I agree. Addiction remains a choice. Which it is, so your decision is wise.
10 Oct 16
Originally posted by avalanchethecatAre you an alcoholic? If not, what makes your 'second hand' experience is more viable than mine?
I would say that definition 2b fair hits the mark. I expect you will read 'marked by' and triumphantly declare that this means that one is not an alcoholic if one is no longer demonstrating 'excessive and usually compulsive...' etc. I suppose this may reflect a less than optimal choice of wording, and I daresay that if one were to examine the entire ...[text shortened]... at internet-argument point scoring. Is this endeavour bringing you a great deal of satisfaction?
11 Oct 16
Originally posted by avalanchethecat... Whether you believe it or not is entirely your choice.Believe what? Addiction is a choice, you disagree but won't explain why. You say you already have explained - so a simple cut-n-paste would work. Since you find your comments unworthy of being repeated, why should I find them worthy of hunting down?
11 Oct 16
Originally posted by avalanchethecatActually my grandfather was an alcoholic and even though he stopped drinking alcohol he substituted the alcohol with fizzy drinks, developed diabetes which killed him.
It's pretty clear that you have little or no experience with alcoholism, or you would not hold the views that you do.