24 Feb 11
Originally posted by DasaYou compare me to "a 7 yr old child with cerebral palsy", for disagreeing with you over a spiritual matter and over me calling attention to your blatant plagiarism, and no apology ensues.
FMF should apologize to you and myself for being an agitator and trouble maker.
Me a trouble maker? All I have done is stuck firmly and forthrightly to my rejection of you superimposing of your subjective belief system onto me. I have not insulted you at all. I acknowledge your sincerity in many of my posts and I express my respect.
And here you are back to accusing me of being a liar and of being dishonest again. What am I supposed to do? Submit to the "authority" you happen to submit to and just keep quiet?
Added to which, now, is this raw personal abuse where you compare me to "a 7 yr old child with cerebral palsy".
How is "Dasa" different from "vishavetu" exactly?
24 Feb 11
Originally posted by FMFYour have been untruthful for misrepresenting what I said........dont do it.
You compare me to "a 7 yr old child with cerebral palsy", for disagreeing with you over a spiritual matter and over me calling attention to your blatant plagiarism, and no apology ensues.
Me a trouble maker? All I have done is stuck firmly and forthrightly to my rejection of you superimposing of your subjective belief system onto me. I have not insulted you ...[text shortened]... old child with cerebral palsy".
How is "Dasa" different from "vishavetu" exactly?
24 Feb 11
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Originally posted by DasaIf you say it is not the authority which you have the right to do, then you must inform me of the true authority and give some description of its teaching.
I would respect that stance if it was an informed stance....but it is a whimsical stance based on lack of understanding.
If you say it is not the authority which you have the right to do, then you must inform me of the true authority and give some description of its teaching.
After all this is the spirituality forum where we are all discussing our spiritu ...[text shortened]... as well, so if their is another authority then I would like to hear about it and learn from it.
You might as well have said if 134354225809324293425264353 is not the biggest natural number then you must inform us what *is* the biggest natural number.
There is no such thing as a biggest natural number; and
I strongly doubt
there is such a thing as a true authority (on spiritual matters at least).
Nobody needs to provide an alternative "authority" if they want to claim your "authority" (or any other theist's "authority" ) is dubious, they can merely demonstrate it is not an authority with simple reason (as many have).
24 Feb 11
Originally posted by AgergThat just the point, FMF has not presented reason but rejects whimsically.
[b]If you say it is not the authority which you have the right to do, then you must inform me of the true authority and give some description of its teaching.
You might as well have said if 134354225809324293425264353 is not the biggest natural number then you must inform us what *is* the biggest natural number.
There is no such thing as a biggest natu ...[text shortened]... us, they can merely demonstrate it is not an authority with simple reason (as many have).[/b]
He rejects not because of higher knowledge....but because of zero knowledge.
24 Feb 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelI wasn't really singling anyone out when I said that. I certainly wouldn't have pegged you as prone to this sort of behaviour, and you're right, Vishvahetu/Dasa is certainly one of the worst offenders, but there's a lot of it around on all sides of all of the fences. It seems to me that Utherpendragon and FMF have something of a history, but that aside FMF is notable, in my opinion, in resisting this trend despite considerable provocation.
I hope you are referring to Dasa and not utherpendragon.
If that stuff that uther has said consitutes insult(s), then I have to really revise my posting habits, as it is not my intention to insult (or convert) anyone. I beleive utherpendragon is of the same persuasion.
As soon as a comment is taken as an insult, or my words are taken as if I were a ...[text shortened]... get saddenned for leading the "debate" into a place where I definately did not want it to go.
I feel that his measured opposition to Vishvahetu/Dasa's ignorant brow-beating is to be applauded regardless of the presence or otherwise of wisdom hidden within vishva's tiresome cut&pastes.
24 Feb 11
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Originally posted by FMFClearly you dont get the context the way I get it, or are YOU really the satirist 😉 ?
Clearly what? Will you please just speak for yourself and do not presume to speak for me or make assertions about what I do and what I don't "get". Dasa is not deep or difficult to comprehend. Dasa has compared me to "a 7 yr old child with cerebral palsy" for disagreeing with him and for raising the issue of his repeated and unapologetic plagiarism. What "conte ou making common cause with arguably this community's most disgraceful member?
24 Feb 11
Originally posted by FMFI make of it that you come across defensive and nit-picky.
I don't attack his beliefs. Nor do I attack yours. And I am not in the slightest bit "defensive" about my own spiritual path. I simply reject assertions made about me if and when they arise. Dasa's "spiritual path" seems to be a mixture of unattributed ideas he has found on the net [or in books] and internalized, hammered home with raw personal abuse and dreary ...[text shortened]... ty Forum. You may rush to his aid here if you wish. People will make of it what they will.
Can you let that one go? or do you have to reply? Its just my opinion about your behaviour.
24 Feb 11
Originally posted by FMFFine. The fact that you replied to me 3 times in a row over a matter that has been beaten to death...Here ya go. Here's the last word for ya
I ignore most of your posts quite deliberately. But I do focus on the ones that are directed at me or that seek to defend Dasa even though he is extraordinarily abusive and "intellectually" tyrannical.
[b]Post after post you offer not much in the way of actual "meat" for discussion. Most of your posts seem to consist of picking apart others' arguements ...[text shortened]... full of "meat" that is fine. I have no reason to doubt your sincerity.
BTW,I got compared to you when I first joined. What does that suppposed to mean? I took it as a compliment🙂
24 Feb 11
Originally posted by avalanchethecatI was applauding it for the first 15 or 20 posts too.
I wasn't really singling anyone out when I said that. I certainly wouldn't have pegged you as prone to this sort of behaviour, and you're right, Vishvahetu/Dasa is certainly one of the worst offenders, but there's a lot of it around on all sides of all of the fences. It seems to me that Utherpendragon and FMF have something of a history, but that a ...[text shortened]... ardless of the presence or otherwise of wisdom hidden within vishva's tiresome cut&pastes.
I;m just bored with it now. FMF this, Dasa that, and so on...
I was accused by FMF of propping up Dasa and supporting him. I dont bring his posts to the top nearly as much as he does. And despite what FMF may say, he has totally misunderstood my stance on Dasa.
And it seems he continues to do so.
Yes he has pulled up Dasa for Dasa's innapropriate conduct. Whoppee!!
Its been done. The other posters have made up their minds. Lets move on.
25 Feb 11
Originally posted by DasaI believe you are being completely sincere when you say you believe I have "zero knowledge".
That just the point, FMF has not presented reason but rejects whimsically.
He rejects not because of higher knowledge....but because of zero knowledge.
25 Feb 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelHey well then, I'll go back and take a look at the context again and try to see how it justifies Dasa comparing me to "a 7 yr old child with cerebral palsy" for disagreeing with him. I just don't get the context like karoly aczel and Dasa do. Mmmm. "Cerebral palsy" eh? I just got to get that context, it seems.
Clearly you dont get the context the way I get it