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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyMy question was about the biosphere as you believe it relates to the pre-adamic reign of the Anointed Cherub or Lucifer.
Will reply after sonship has responded. Thanks for your patience.
What's your belief about dinosaurs if or if not related to Satan's pre-adamic reign?
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14 Dec 14
Originally posted by sonshipPlease can you explain who and what the "the pre-adamic reign of the Anointed Cherub" is? Thanks.
My question was about the biosphere as you believe it relates to the pre-adamic reign of the Anointed Cherub or Lucifer.
What's your belief about dinosaurs if or if not related to Satan's pre-adamic reign?
14 Dec 14
Originally posted by sonshipOriginally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 3)
My question was about the biosphere as you believe it relates to the pre-adamic reign of the Anointed Cherub or Lucifer.
What's your belief about dinosaurs if or if not related to Satan's pre-adamic reign?
"Before time and the universe existed, the eternal triune God who has no beginning or end chose to create a large host of rational angelic creatures who would reside with Him. Colossians 1:16-17 (New American Standard Bible) 6 "For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. 17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together." In the Book of Revelation 5:11b their number is described as "myriads of myriads, and thousands of thousands."
In speaking to Job God confirmed that the angels preexisted creation: Job 38:4-7 (NASB) 4 "Where were you [Job] when I [God] laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, 5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? 6 On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars [angels] sang together And all the sons of God [the entire angelic creation] shouted for joy?" They "shouted for joy" when the universe, "the heavens and earth", were created: Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
This brief biblical account of the angelic creation in eternity past will be followed by biblical documentation of the many differences between angels and men. The one vital characteristic men and angels have in common is self determination."
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 3)
"In speaking to Job God confirmed that the angels preexisted creation: Job 38:4-7 (NASB) 4 "Where were you [Job] when I [God] laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, 5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? 6 On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars [angels] sang together And all the sons of God [the entire angelic creation] shouted for joy?" They "shouted for joy" when the universe, "the heavens and earth", were created: Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
Originally posted by josephw
"As to the question whether the angelic hosts were witness to the creation of heaven and earth I think the answer lies in the verses above. They(the angels)were not witnesses of creation, but were part of creation..."
"Joe, perhaps we'll be able to revisit this point of difference with respect to our understandings of the biblical account of creation once the topic sequence suggested in the original post is completed. The Bible records four distinct beginnings:
A) John 1:1 "In the beginning [which was not a true beginning since God is eternal, self-existent and has no beginning or end] was the Word [logos] and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." B) The creation or origination of the angels at some point in eternity past before the creation of the universe. C) Genesis 1:1 documents the creation of the heavens and earth [hashamsyim, in the plural meaning the universe which was created as the domain of the angels]. During this time Lucifer rebelled against God and enticed one third of the angelic host to follow him (as revealed in Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28 and Revelation 12). This prehistoric revolt took place on planet earth bringing utter chaos upon it. This planet was enshrouded in darkness without light or heat causing the earth's waters to freeze into an ice pack as part of God's judgment. Before the earth could be inhabited again the restoration recorded in Genesis 1:2 would be necessary. D) Fourth beginning, following this restoration, the creation of the human race. Next: Lucifer's trial, sentence, appeal and the role of human volition."
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Originally posted by sonship (Page 4)
"Grampy, do you hold some beliefs about the existence of dinosaurs being somehow related to the reign of Lucifer ?"
Originally posted by sonship (Page 4)
"My question was about the biosphere as you believe it relates to the pre-adamic reign of the Anointed Cherub or Lucifer.
What's your belief about dinosaurs if or if not related to Satan's pre-adamic reign?"
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Please clarify your remaining question in light of the information from the Genesis Account provided on page three.
15 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYou buried the question under a biblical rockslide.
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby (Page 3)
"Before time and the universe existed, the eternal triune God who has no beginning or end chose to create a large host of rational angelic creatures who would reside with Him. Colossians 1:16-17 (New American Standard Bible) 6 "For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visibl ...[text shortened]... remaining question in light of the information from the Genesis Account provided on page three.
15 Dec 14
Originally posted by HandyAndy"Did God create dinosaurs to terrorize Lucifer, or did Lucifer create dinosaurs as pets?" -HandyAndy Lucifer created chaos. The account of the restoration of the earth begins in Genesis 1:2; in verse 24 "Then God said, 'Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind'; and it was so." In Job 40: 15-18 the tail of Behemoth is compared to a cedar because of its great size, some type of now extinct dinosaur.
Did God create dinosaurs to terrorize Lucifer, or did Lucifer create dinosaurs as pets?
15 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyDid God create dinosaurs to terrorize Lucifer?
"Did God create dinosaurs to terrorize Lucifer, or did Lucifer create dinosaurs as pets?" -HandyAndy Lucifer created chaos. The account of the restoration of the earth begins in Genesis 1:2; in verse 24 "Then God said, 'Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind'; and ...[text shortened]... of Behemoth is compared to a cedar because of its great size, some type of now extinct dinosaur.
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15 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySo you believe there's no direct connection between dinosaurs and Lucifer.
"Did God create dinosaurs to terrorize Lucifer, or did Lucifer create dinosaurs as pets?" -HandyAndy Lucifer created chaos. The account of the restoration of the earth begins in Genesis 1:2; in verse 24 "Then God said, 'Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind'; and ...[text shortened]... of Behemoth is compared to a cedar because of its great size, some type of now extinct dinosaur.