15 Dec 14
Originally posted by HandyAndyFrom the previous page: "The account of the restoration of the earth begins in Genesis 1:2; in verse 24 "Then God said, 'Let the earth bring forth living creatures after their kind: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth after their kind'; and it was so." In Job 40: 15-18 the tail of Behemoth is compared to a cedar because of its great size, some type of now extinct dinosaur." The "nexus linking dinosaurs and Lucifer" according to the Genesis 1:2-31 account is that at some unrevealed point in eternity following Lucifer's rebellion earth, animals and human beings were created as part of God's plan.
Not at all. I'm simply restating your apparent position that there is no nexus linking dinosaurs and Lucifer.
15 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbySpecifically, what is the relationship or connection between dinosaurs and Lucifer? Please clarify.
The "nexus linking dinosaurs and Lucifer" according to the Genesis 1:2-31 account is that at some unrevealed point in eternity following Lucifer's rebellion earth, animals and human beings were created as part of God's plan.
16 Dec 14
Originally posted by HandyAndy"In speaking to Job God confirmed that the angels preexisted creation: Job 38:4-7 (NASB) 4 "Where were you [Job] when I [God] laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, 5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? 6 On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morning stars [angels] sang together And all the sons of God [the entire angelic creation] shouted for joy?" They "shouted for joy" when the universe, "the heavens and earth", were created: Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
Kind of like February and October, right?
The Bible records four distinct beginnings: A) John 1:1 "In the beginning [which was not a true beginning since God is eternal, self-existent and has no beginning or end] was the Word [logos] and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." B) The creation or origination of the angels at some point in eternity past before the creation of the universe. C) Genesis 1:1 documents the creation of the heavens and earth [hashamsyim, in the plural meaning the universe which was created as the domain of the angels]. During this time Lucifer rebelled against God and enticed one third of the angelic host to follow him (as revealed in Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28 and Revelation 12). This prehistoric revolt took place on planet earth bringing utter chaos upon it. This planet was enshrouded in darkness without light or heat causing the earth's waters to freeze into an ice pack as part of God's judgment. Before the earth could be inhabited again the restoration recorded in Genesis 1:2 would be necessary. D) Fourth beginning, following this restoration, the creation of the human race. Next: Lucifer's trial, sentence, appeal and the role of human volition." (Page 3)
Eternity Past: Angelic Creation; Genesis 1:1 Creation of the Heavens and Earth; Lucifer's Revolt; Genesis 1:2-31 Restoration of the Earth; On Day Six: Creation of Land Creatures and Mankind) ---> [human history began]---> (Eternity Future
Originally posted by HandyAndy
Kind of like February and October, right?
In a sense, yes; in another sense, there's no calendar equivalency of the absence of time in eternity with months in time.
16 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIn Genesis 1, God creates mankind "in his own image." When all hell breaks loose during Lucifer's rebellion,
"In speaking to Job [b]God confirmed that the angels preexisted creation: Job 38:4-7 (NASB) 4 "Where were you [Job] when I [God] laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding, 5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. Or who stretched the line on it? 6 On what were its bases sunk? Or who laid its cornerstone, 7 When the morn ...[text shortened]... r sense, there's no calendar equivalency of the absence of time in eternity with months in time.[/b]
darkness prevails, oceans freeze and life ends for humans. But then we have the "restoration" in Genesis 2
and the arrival of Adam and Eve and the return of life forms.
Who was that masked man in Genesis 1?
16 Dec 14
Originally posted by HandyAndy"Eternity Past: Angelic Creation;
In Genesis 1, God creates mankind "in his own image." When all hell breaks loose during Lucifer's rebellion,
darkness prevails, oceans freeze and life ends for humans. But then we have the "restoration" in Genesis 2
and the arrival of Adam and Eve and the return of life forms.
Who was that masked man in Genesis 1?
Genesis 1:1 Creation of the Heavens and Earth;
Lucifer's Revolt;
Genesis 1:2-31 Restoration of the Earth;
On Day Six: Creation of Land Creatures and Mankind) ---> [human history began]---> (Eternity Future"
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Genesis 1:27 "in his own image.": Man is not a duplicate of God but has an inferior, finite correspondence
in the sense that man's essence is immaterial, spiritual, rational, moral and invisible. Characteristics also
include self consciousness, mentality, conscience; self determination [only creature uniquely reflecting God].
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16 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby“Some have learnt many tricks of sly evasion; instead of truth they use equivocation and eke it out with mental reservation, which is to good men an abomination.”
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." -Albert Einstein
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16 Dec 14
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Originally posted by divegeester“If you picture Time as a straight line along which we have to travel, then you must picture God as the whole page on which the line is drawn.” ― C.S. Lewis
“Some have learnt many tricks of sly evasion; instead of truth they use equivocation and eke it out with mental reservation, which is to good men an abomination.”
Benjamin Franklin
"Very well then, atheism is too simple. And I will tell you another view that is also too simple. It is the view I call Christianity-and-water, the view which simply says there is a good God in Heaven and everything is all right-leaving out all the difficult and terrible doctrines about sin and hell and the devil, and the redemption. Both these are boys' philosophies."
― C.S. Lewis
16 Dec 14
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThe simplicity of the knowledge of God as it is revealed in His Word is lost on those who oppose themselves.
“If you picture Time as a straight line along which we have to travel, then you must picture God as the whole page on which the line is drawn.” ― C.S. Lewis
"Very well then, atheism is too simple. And I will tell you another view that is also too simple. It is the view I call Christianity-and-water, the view which simply says there is a good God in ...[text shortened]... n and hell and the devil, and the redemption. Both these are boys' philosophies."
― C.S. Lewis