Another sign of the godless times?

Originally posted by FMF
Does theft cause harm to another person? Yes. Does it restrict or violate another person's rights? Yes. Does theft victimize someone? Yes. Does homosexuality victimize someone? No. Does homosexuality cause harm to another person? No. Does it restrict or violate another person's rights? No. Your comparison crumbles under scrutiny.

It doesn't matter what you think or the next guy thinks. It's what God thinks and that's the bottom line. It's something that's disgustiing to him and he hates it. If you think it's ok in your eyes then that's your business but your dead wrong in the big picture that it's ok for this to be happening and to be accepted by anyone much less Christians.

Originally posted by lausey
Do you also accept this?

Deuteronomy 22
New Living Translation (NLT)
20 “But suppose the man’s accusations are true, and he can show that she was not a virgin. 21 The woman must be taken to the door of her father’s home, and there the men of the town must stone her to death, for she has committed a disgraceful crime in Israel by being promiscuous while l ...[text shortened]... tting adultery, both he and the woman must die. In this way, you will purge Israel of such evil.

Sorry but we've discussed this and I'm wanting to stick to the post here now.

Originally posted by lausey
Do you also accept this?

Deuteronomy 22
New Living Translation (NLT)
20 “But suppose the man’s accusations are true, and he can show that she was not a virgin. 21 The woman must be taken to the door of her father’s home, and there the men of the town must stone her to death, for she has committed a disgraceful crime in Israel by being promiscuous while l ...[text shortened]... tting adultery, both he and the woman must die. In this way, you will purge Israel of such evil.

John 8:1-11 New Living Translation

Jesus returned to the Mount of Olives, but early the next morning he was
back again at the Temple. A crowd soon gathered, and he sat down and
taught them. As he was speaking, the teachers of religious law and the
Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in the act of adultery.
They put her in front of the crowd.

“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of
adultery. The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”

They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against
him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. They
kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but
let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” Then he stooped
down again and wrote in the dust.

When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning
with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with
the woman. Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where
are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”

“No, Lord,” she said.

And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”

Originally posted by galveston75
It doesn't matter what you think or the next guy thinks. It's what God thinks and that's the bottom line. It's something that's disgustiing to him and he hates it. If you think it's ok in your eyes then that's your business but your dead wrong in the big picture that it's ok for this to be happening and to be accepted by anyone much less Christians.

But do you concede that murder is not comparable to homosexuality?

Originally posted by FMF
But do you concede that murder is not comparable to homosexuality?

It doesn't matter which ones we think are worse or less important. In God's eyes they are all wrong. In the Bible they were both punished by death.
He is the one who made these laws and for many different reasons. He did not set us up as judges when it comes to his laws. If he left this open to humans he would have stated that.


Luke 16:10
New Living Translation (NLT)

10 “If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won’t be honest with greater responsibilities.


The first part of this scripture expresses this about our faith in God and the laws he said we are to follow.
We may not always agree with his laws because of our own understanding or our emotions may make us feel differently.
But this is where FAITH comes in and we have to accept that he knows better and knows all the consiquenses of what can happen if we don't obey.

Originally posted by galveston75
It doesn't matter which ones we think are worse or less important. In God's eyes they are all wrong. In the Bible they were both punished by death.
He is the one who made these laws and for many different reasons. He did not set us up as judges when it comes to his laws. If he left this open to humans he would have stated that.

So, you believe that, ideally, homosexuality would be punished by death?

Originally posted by FMF
So, you believe that, ideally, homosexuality would be punished by death?

you seem to be having trouble distinguishing Galveston from God, what Galveston
thinks as an individual and what is written in scripture, between the Mosaic law and its
ordinances and the Law of Christ as a spiritual application of that law, sigh.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you seem to be having trouble distinguishing Galveston from God, what Galveston
thinks as an individual and what is written in scripture, between the Mosaic law and its
ordinances and the Law of Christ as a spiritual application of that law, sigh.

Well I have asked galveston75 a direct question about what he believes. I'm not sure why you have chosen to try to head the question off at the pass, but I do have an idea why.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
you seem to be having trouble distinguishing Galveston from God, what Galveston
thinks as an individual and what is written in scripture, between the Mosaic law and its
ordinances and the Law of Christ as a spiritual application of that law, sigh.

You're good for obfuscation and not much else.

So God believes that, ideally, homosexuality would be punished by death?

Originally posted by FMF
Well I have asked galveston75 a direct question about what he believes. I'm not sure why you have chosen to try to head the question off at the pass, but I do have an idea why.

strange that you seemed to have over looked this,

It doesn't matter what you think or the next guy thinks. It's what God thinks and that's the bottom line

Galveston is not trying to portray his personal opinions, but what the Bible professes,
yet you insist on ignoring this and to make it personal, why would you want to do that,
are you incapable of discussing the scriptural references objectively?

Originally posted by LemonJello
You're good for obfuscation and not much else.

So God believes that, ideally, homosexuality would be punished by death?

more tabloid journalism, lol, trash sells no doubt, now here is a point that you seem to
be blissfully unaware of otherwise you would not have asked such a thoroughly
ignorant question, we are Christians, the Mosaic Law and its ordinances are no longer
binding, do you understand? That God in the past punished homosexuality with great severity was incumbent only upon the Jewish nation, when Christ came and superseded these laws in practice, they became no longer binding, in practice, that God still has, according to the Bible, a very dim view of the practice, making it as a transgression as morally as serious as theft and murder, does not necessitate that homosexuals should be punished with death, does it,.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
strange that you seemed to have over looked this,

It doesn't matter what you think or the next guy thinks. It's what God thinks and that's the bottom line

Galveston is not trying to portray his personal opinions, but what the Bible professes,
yet you insist on ignoring this and to make it personal, why would you want to do that,
are you incapable of discussing the scriptural references objectively?

Does galveston75 submit to and agree with "what God thinks" in this matter? Maybe you could just let him answer rather than try to portray me asking his opinion on a debate forum as being "making it personal"?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
more tabloid journalism, lol, trash sells no doubt, now here is a point that you seem to
be blissfully unaware of otherwise you would not have asked such a thoroughly
ignorant question, we are Christians, the Mosaic Law and its ordinances are no longer
binding, do you understand?

No.

Care to answer the question?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
...we are Christians, the Mosaic Law and its ordinances are no longer
binding, do you understand?

But galveston75 said "God is the one who made these laws and for many different reasons. He did not set us up as judges when it comes to his laws. If he left this open to humans he would have stated that." So, I again ask galveston75 - not you robbie - if he believes that, ideally, homosexuality would be punished by death?

Originally posted by LemonJello
No.

Care to answer the question?

I have answered the question, i will not do so again.