24 Dec 11
Originally posted by FMFNo but this scripture, again, is clear on what God hates. If you don't acccept thievery and probably most other things mentioned in this scripture and if you are a spiritual person with God but then accept homosexuality, how do you make some things work and other things you don't accept, answer to God on this?
No I don't "accept" thievery. Do you equate thievery with homosexuality?
24 Dec 11
Originally posted by galveston75Does theft cause harm to another person? Yes. Does it restrict or violate another person's rights? Yes. Does theft victimize someone? Yes. Does homosexuality victimize someone? No. Does homosexuality cause harm to another person? No. Does it restrict or violate another person's rights? No. Your comparison crumbles under scrutiny.
No but this scripture, again, is clear on what God hates. If you don't acccept thievery and probably most other things mentioned in this scripture and if you are a spiritual person with God but then accept homosexuality, how do you make some things work and other things you don't accept, answer to God on this?
24 Dec 11
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Originally posted by galveston75Do you also accept this?
No but this scripture, again, is clear on what God hates. If you don't acccept thievery and probably most other things mentioned in this scripture and if you are a spiritual person with God but then accept homosexuality, how do you make some things work and other things you don't accept, answer to God on this?
Deuteronomy 22
New Living Translation (NLT)
20 “But suppose the man’s accusations are true, and he can show that she was not a virgin. 21 The woman must be taken to the door of her father’s home, and there the men of the town must stone her to death, for she has committed a disgraceful crime in Israel by being promiscuous while living in her parents’ home. In this way, you will purge this evil from among you.
22 “If a man is discovered committing adultery, both he and the woman must die. In this way, you will purge Israel of such evil.
24 Dec 11
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Originally posted by FMFno it doesn't, the article simply, clearly and concisely states that if you seek out
This section of the article:
ecause the practice is one "contrary to nature," the masturbator pays a mental penalty. The habitual practice cripples his social and emotional development, hinders his attaining a healthful outlook and attitude toward the other sex and toward people in general. It can 'turn the person inward' upon himself, making him introver not a function of the masturbation. The article has got it completely the wrong way around
someone else for mutual masturbation it may or can lead and frequently does lead to
homosexuality, are you denying this is a fact, no you are not and instead you are
attempting to obfuscate a very simple statement with terms like, masturbation on its own leads to homosexuality, not actually claimed by the article, that homosexuality leads to masturbation, not actually claimed by the article. You stance is one of intellectual dishonesty and a real lack of reading comprehension skills.
24 Dec 11
-Removed-you could always read it for yourself and offer an interpretation, but that would involve
engaging your mind and your powers of discernment, not recommended for nominal
christians who seemingly prefer to be spoonfed information as your latest post once
again demonstrates, are you getting a dummy tit for Christmas?
24 Dec 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt's homosexuality that leads to homosexual acts like mutual masturbation,robbie. The theory laid out in The Watchtower article is absurd.
no it doesn't, the article simply, clearly and concisely states that if you seek out
someone else for mutual masturbation it may or can lead and frequently does lead to
homosexuality, are you denying this is a fact, no you are not and instead you are
attempting to obfuscate a very simple statement with terms like, masturbation on its own leads ...[text shortened]... You stance is one of intellectual dishonesty and a real lack of reading comprehension skills.
24 Dec 11
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Originally posted by FMFif you seek out someone else for mutual masturbation it may or can lead and
It's homosexuality that leads to homosexual acts like mutual masturbation,robbie. The theory laid out in The Watchtower article is absurd.
frequently does lead to homosexuality, are you denying this FMF?
24 Dec 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo. You've got it totally back to front, robbie. It would be my homosexuality that would lead to me seeking out someone else of the same sex for mutual masturbation.
if you seek out someone else for mutual masturbation it may or can lead and
frequently does lead to homosexuality, are you denying this FMF?
24 Dec 11
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf you seek out someone else of the same sex for mutual masturbation, it may
no it doesn't, the article simply, clearly and concisely states that if you seek out
someone else for mutual masturbation it may or can lead and frequently does lead to
homosexuality, are you denying this is a fact, no you are not and instead you are
attempting to obfuscate a very simple statement with terms like, masturbation on its own leads ...[text shortened]... You stance is one of intellectual dishonesty and a real lack of reading comprehension skills.
or can lead to more frequent acts of homosexuality. However, I believe you
already have homosexual tendencies to want to seek out someone of the same
sex to masturbate with. Speaking from experience as a hetrosexual male I
would seek out a female to have sex with, which may or can lead to more
frequent acts of hetrosexuality. It did in my case and I had five children to
prove it. I have never had any desire to seek out another male for the
purpose of mutual masturbation. If I am unable to have sex with a female
when I have a strong sexual desire, I prefer to masturbate alone while looking
at a picture of a beautiful woman in Playboy magazine.
24 Dec 11
Originally posted by galveston75Who wrote Romans 1:26-27 and what is his claim to speak on behalf of god
Romans 1:26-27
New Living Translation (NLT)
26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, ...[text shortened]... f these things has the right to say that God's view is wrong and that we can do as we please?
24 Dec 11
Originally posted by deennyThis was written by the apostle to the gentiles. It is another one of the
Who wrote Romans 1:26-27 and what is his claim to speak on behalf of god
letters Paul wrote during his ministry to the gentiles. He identifies himself
in the beginning of the letter.
Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, called as an apostle, set apart for the
gospel of God..... (Romans 1:1)