19 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonYou are crookedly pretending not to understand the point...
[b]"NOT ONCE DID HE EVER TELL THESE PEOPLE ABOUT HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION.... NOT ONE SINGLE TIME."
Jesus said "Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?"
Do you have the slightest clue about the "cup" Jesus was talking about?
Do you deny that Jesus rose from the dead ...[text shortened]...
Do you understand those verses? Even the Pharisees knew Jesus said He would rise from the dead.[/b]
Which is
Jesus never preached to the many thousands and thousands about his death and resurrection.
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19 May 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Now your standard is not what Jesus said but how many people he said it to?
You are crookedly pretending not to understand the point...
Which is
Jesus never preached to the many thousands and thousands about his death and resurrection.
Your doctrines have been blown out of the water so many times it’s a miracle you think they’re still credible.
19 May 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Were you there? Even Jesus' own disciples didn't understand what He was talking about when Jesus said He would be killed.
You are crookedly pretending not to understand the point...
Which is
Jesus never preached to the many thousands and thousands about his death and resurrection.
But we have the whole record, and clearly Jesus taught His disciples concerning His death and resurrection, but you will continue to deny everything shown you in the scriptures that proves it.
19 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Me too.
I’ll take some cookies and milk. I like chocolate chip or peanut butter.
19 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThe disciples were both surprised at his death and even more surprised at his resurrection. Jesus never told even them ... church boy.
Were you there? Even Jesus' own disciples didn't understand what He was talking about when Jesus said He would be killed.
But we have the whole record, and clearly Jesus taught His disciples concerning His death and resurrection, but you will continue to deny everything shown you in the scriptures that proves it.
And the question 'were you there?" shows that you are grasping for breath under the weight of your nonsense church teachings. Neither of us were there, but we are going by the writings of the gospels. Now after the fact everyone can see what transpired at that time.
The question is why did Jesus not see it fit to inform all the thousands to whom he preached and who followed him, if it was the case that this doctrine was critical for ones eternal life. And the answer is simple... this doctrine is not a critical one for eternal life. Your church is wrong.
19 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeMisunderstanding of scripture is all too common in this forum.
In other words, 'graded rewards' is a misunderstanding of scripture.
“I do not believe there is a single NT text that, when correctly interpreted, supports the notion that believers will be distinguished one from another for all eternity on the basis of their works as Christians” - Blomberg,
19 May 18
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Originally posted by @suzianneGreater rewards, and harsher punishments, are both supported in Scripture.
Misunderstanding of scripture is all too common in this forum.
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I meant to reply to Ghost but still a little clumsy.
19 May 18
Here's one for you Rajk. It's Bible doctrine. Not church doctrine.
Isaiah 40:3
The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Matthew 3:1-3
In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Deny that Rajk.
20 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonYou are not focusing. Im not discussing bible doctrine.
Here's one for you Rajk. It's Bible doctrine. Not church doctrine.
Isaiah 40:3
The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.
Matthew 3:1-3
In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven ...[text shortened]... g in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
Deny that Rajk.
Here is the issue...
What did Jesus preach is the question and why did he preach certain things and did not preach certain things.
20 May 18
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke"Never take biblical interpretation lightly. Never assume you've arrived or learned all that you can. Be a lifelong learner, but always apply what you're learning to yourself in real-life situations. Accurate interpretation is meant to lead to obedience."
Craig Blomberg (New Testament scholar.) argued that 'when Jesus referred to some of His followers being ‘least’ and some of them being ‘great’ (Luke 9:48), He was referring to the earthly Kingdom and did not imply a hierarchy in the afterlife. Mr. Blomberg believes that most of the passages concerning “rewards in Heaven” actually refer to the “rewa ...[text shortened]... e, the result would merely be a works-based servitude with the hopes of getting more back later.
Craig Blomberg
20 May 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Why are you ignoring the verses I quoted?
You are not focusing. Im not discussing bible doctrine.
Here is the issue...
What did Jesus preach is the question and why did he preach certain things and did not preach certain things.
Too frightening for you?
20 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonDid Jesus preach those verses to the thousands that he converted?
Why are you ignoring the verses I quoted?
Too frightening for you?
Yes? Then please provide the reference.. thanks.
If not then keep you church mouth shut
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20 May 18
Originally posted by @rajk999Christ denier be a hatin’.
Did Jesus preach those verses to the thousands that he converted?
Yes? Then please provide the reference.. thanks.
If not then keep you church mouth shut
20 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Another dunce church mouse bites the dust.... lol.
Christ denier be a hatin’.
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20 May 18
Originally posted by @rajk999You still haven’t answered whether the standard for your (false) doctrines is no longer what Jesus said, but how many people he said it to.
Another dunce church mouse bites the dust.... lol.
Is this yet another question you’ll dodge? Are you in some sort of question-dodging competition with ToO?