Are all non-Christians destined for Hell?

Originally posted by @suzianne
I mean, the reason for the "bingo" in the first place is to acknowledge that someone else "gets" what you're saying.

My "Bingo"s are for the consumption of those who see how dj2becker's and Romans1009's clumsy attempts at answering my question just serve to prove my point.

Originally posted by @suzianne
I'm not sure that you have any business telling me whom I should give my 'cookies' to.

Now don't be rude, or no milk for you.

I’ll take some cookies and milk. I like chocolate chip or peanut butter.

Originally posted by @fmf
My "Bingo"s are for the consumption of those who see how dj2becker's and Romans1009's clumsy attempts at answering my question just serve to prove my point.

Your premise was flawed to begin with. All I did was point out your straw man premise.

Originally posted by @fmf
The idea that non-believers will be tortured for eternity is not credible to non-believers. So what is the purpose of threatening to torture non-believers for eternity?

God is the primary doctrine.

Hell is a secondary doctrine.

If there is no God, then of course secondary doctrines related to God's existence do not seem credible.

If you believe there is no God at all, how would you ever believe in doctrines related to the eternal soul and heaven or hell?

Originally posted by @philokalia
God is the primary doctrine.

Hell is a secondary doctrine.

If there is no God, then of course secondary doctrines related to God's existence do not seem credible.

If you believe there is no God at all, how would you ever believe in doctrines related to the eternal soul and heaven or hell?

This is a great point and further exposes the shallow thinking behind a flawed premise.

Originally posted by @romans1009
This is a great point and further exposes the shallow thinking behind a flawed premise.

Bingo!

Originally posted by @philokalia
God is the primary doctrine.

Hell is a secondary doctrine.

If there is no God, then of course secondary doctrines related to God's existence do not seem credible.

If you believe there is no God at all, how would you ever believe in doctrines related to the eternal soul and heaven or hell?

Bingo!

Originally posted by @philokalia
God is the primary doctrine.

Hell is a secondary doctrine.

If there is no God, then of course secondary doctrines related to God's existence do not seem credible.

If you believe there is no God at all, how would you ever believe in doctrines related to the eternal soul and heaven or hell?

If believers are "saved", then what is the purpose of torturing non-believers for eternity after they die?

Originally posted by @philokalia
If you believe there is no God at all, how would you ever believe in doctrines related to the eternal soul and heaven or hell?

So it's not for believers. And it's not for non-believers. Who does that leave? Who's it for?

Originally posted by @fmf
So it's not for believers. And it's not for non-believers. Who does that leave? Who's it for?

This post makes absolutely no sense.

Originally posted by @fmf
If believers are "saved", then what is the purpose of torturing non-believers for eternity after they die?

Assuming what you claim and not annihilationism is correct, an eternally-existing soul must, in the afterlife, be either with God or apart from God.

Originally posted by @fmf
If believers are "saved", then what is the purpose of torturing non-believers for eternity after they die?

I. What is meant by torture, though?

Every description of hell that I am familiar with that is within the Catholic or Orthodox tradition (sorry, that is what I am most familiar with) is like this:

(a) The fire is not necessarily literal; it is figurative. However, the pain of hell is as a fire, and it "burns" in some manner.
(b) The source of the burning is being permanently cut off from God.
(c) People in hell are in pure isolation. This is another element of it.
(d) People send themselves to hell. It is cosmic justice.
(e) There is probably a point at which hell is destroyed, and the only people left to actually suffer for all of eternity is Satan and the Antichrist.

II. Non-believers is way too broad of a term.

Christians are saved.

People who refuse to repent and reject Christ consciously are not saved.

There is a giant nebulous in between these things.

You have made an extreme conclusion that literally anyone who theoretically doesn't fit precisely into the first category is destined for hell.

This is not an accurate description of what most people are saying.

SO:

You just created a really pithy line that might get approval from other hardline atheists, but it falls short of truly addressing anything that Christians say.

Originally posted by @philokalia
I. What is meant by torture, though?

How about this:

Matt 13:50
...throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Originally posted by @divegeester
How about this:

Matt 13:50
...throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

And you get eternal torture from that? You think that verse is not compatible with annihilationism?

Originally posted by @divegeester
How about this:

Matt 13:50
...throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Besides, one would think being burned alive for eternity (as you are so fond of posting) would elicit a little more than “weeping” and “gnashing of teeth.”