Originally posted by josephwOriginally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Until now all I hear are unfounded ad hominem attacks and personal insults.
To be honest Joe, and i'm sure it is not your intention, but I find it quite insulting when told my atheism is a form of delusion, or worse that I am lying.
So was the above post by Ghost of Duke an unfounded ad hominem attack or a personal insult?
13 Mar 17
You all just keep turning, squirming and twisting away from my original assertion, i. e. that the evidence for a creator is everything that exists, and that those who assert that there is no creator do so without evidence, which is delusional.
Face the music folks. Either produce the evidence that proves there's no creator for all that exists, or disprove the assertion that all that exists is the evidence for a creator. Or both. I don't care which.
13 Mar 17
Originally posted by josephwWhat about the assertion that the universe has always existed?
You all just keep turning, squirming and twisting away from my original assertion, i. e. that the evidence for a creator is everything that exists, and that those who assert that there is no creator do so without evidence, which is delusional.
Face the music folks. Either produce the evidence that proves there's no creator for all that exists, or disprove the assertion that all that exists is the evidence for a creator. Or both. I don't care which.
13 Mar 17
Originally posted by josephwNobody has squirmed away from it. We have just pointed out that it is nothing more than an unfounded assertion made by someone who is so insecure in his beliefs that he has to believe that atheists are delusion and lying to themselves to make himself feel better.
You all just keep turning, squirming and twisting away from my original assertion,
When it comes to squirming and twisting, you are the clear winner.
Face the music folks. Either produce the evidence that proves there's no creator for all that exists, or disprove the assertion that all that exists is the evidence for a creator. Or both. I don't care which.
Why should anyone disprove the assertion? Its an unfounded assertion that doesn't require disproving. It is up to you to prove it. Until you do, its nothing.
Having said that, it has been disproved by multiple people, but you apparently ignored their posts.
Originally posted by twhitehead"We have just pointed out that it is nothing more than an unfounded assertion made by someone who is so insecure in his beliefs that he has to believe that atheists are delusion and lying to themselves to make himself feel better."
Nobody has squirmed away from it. We have just pointed out that it is nothing more than an unfounded assertion made by someone who is so insecure in his beliefs that he has to believe that atheists are delusion and lying to themselves to make himself feel better.
When it comes to squirming and twisting, you are the clear winner.
[b]Face the music fo ...[text shortened]... ing said that, it has been disproved by multiple people, but you apparently ignored their posts.
Ad hominem silliness.
"Why should anyone disprove the assertion? Its an unfounded assertion that doesn't require disproving. It is up to you to prove it. Until you do, its nothing."
Squirming.
I made the assertion that all that exists as evidence for a creator. Now it's up to you to prove that wrong, or provide the evidence to the contrary.
13 Mar 17
Originally posted by josephwBut nevertheless true.
Ad hominem silliness.
I made the assertion that all that exists as evidence for a creator. Now it's up to you to prove that wrong, or provide the evidence to the contrary.
No, it isn't 'up to me'. I can quite safely ignore any and all of your ridiculous assertions out of hand.
I can also quite safely announce that you know that you are wrong and are just lying to yourself in your delusional state of mind.
13 Mar 17
Originally posted by twhitehead" I expect you are feeling a little dumb right now."
But have you proven it false? If not, then it has the same status as your unsupported assertion - which was the whole point he was getting at. I expect you are feeling a little dumb right now. 🙂
Only in your mind. 😉
"But have you proven it false?"
It's false until proven true.
Originally posted by FMFThat's silly. Everyone knows the universe hasn't always been here in it's current form.
One can back the assertion that the universe has always existed with the assertion that all the things that exist in it is evidence that it is so.
Your point is moot. Your assertion is incoherent.