18 Mar 17
Originally posted by KellyJayI have come across a wide range of theories, yes.
Go through the whole human race, have you found any that have come up with how everything came into being?
Your problem is you unlike our dear fictional detective Sherlok Homes cannot deal with, "... when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?"
Except you haven't eliminated everything, you are just ignorant of it.
Your arrogance is thinking everyone else is as ignorant as you.
Your dishonesty is pretending you are ignorant when you are quite well aware that this topic has been discussed for over 10 years on this forum and many many theories have been put forward in that time in discussions you were party to.
18 Mar 17
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatGive me a way nothing can produce anything, if there is nothing there that can be acted
One possible explanation: there may still be nothing, the universe we observe may be balanced by a universe which is in some way negative to our positive, so that when combined they come to nothing. Our current situation may be nothing more than a fluctuation in nothing, without cause or purpose.
You have not stated 'factually' that nothing can p ...[text shortened]... e anything other than nothing. You have stated it, and you may believe it, but it is not a fact.
upon, or nothing there that can react? Delusion does seem to fit this discussion as you
are reaching for anything in nothing.
18 Mar 17
Originally posted by avalanchethecatWell oh wise one, explain how nothing can produce everything, for that matter just talk
You very silly person, I have considered these things for years, and discussed them with far cleverer people than you, both theist and atheist. The arrogance redolent in your and josephw's posting is that of ignorance. If you knew more, you would realise how little you actually do know.
about how nothing can do just do anything at all with nothing to work with?
18 Mar 17
Originally posted by KellyJayYou are being ridiculous. Even if I could explain to you the precise mechanism by which a universe might come into being from nothing, you would not be able to grasp the physics of it and so would wave it away as nonsense anyway. You don't know. I don't know. The only difference is that you pretend that you do.
Give me a way nothing can produce anything, if there is nothing there that can be acted
upon, or nothing there that can react? Delusion does seem to fit this discussion as you
are reaching for anything in nothing.
18 Mar 17
Originally posted by avalanchethecatNo, as I pointed out to you unless you have something to work with you got nothing. If you have something to work with we are no longer discussing nothing. You what to change the topic do so.
You should read about it before you continue with this discussion.
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18 Mar 17
Originally posted by josephwPretty good. Got more?
Your logic leads to the regression of logic.
The assertion that what exists is evidence for a creator isn't grounds for asserting that a logic exists that a creator created a creator.
That isn't simple logic, it's mind-numbingly redundant delusional irrationality.
Here's another one for you. The supernatural, or spiritual, is the basis of logic, not the defiance of it.