Barriers to belief

Originally posted by FMF
I don't believe you. Nothing I said in the post you were replying to was hardly any different from stuff I've said to you in numerous posts over the last few months. It's just the same stuff. Deliberately so. I wanted to see what you'd say. Now, you say you "can totally relate"? And yet throughout 2016 you just ignored it, pretended I hadn't said anything... and ...[text shortened]... out with "I can totally relate and empathize with you". You strike me as being totally bogus. 😉

You don't have to believe me. The fact that you view my questions as a piss-take ritual may be your perception, but you have been avoiding many of the questions or only giving superficial, generic answers. The fact that I think your faith wasn't based on reason and that you were just following the crowd, doesn't mean I can't relate or empathize with you.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You don't have to believe me. The fact that you view my questions as a piss-take ritual may be your perception, but you have been avoiding many of the questions or only giving superficial answers. The fact that I think your faith wasn't based on reason and that you were just following the crowd, doesn't mean I can't relate or empathize with you.

Trying to have a conversation with you is like trying to leave a message on an answer machine that just asks the same two or three questions over and over again but doesn't record what anyone says.

Originally posted by FMF
Trying to have a conversation with you is like trying to leave a message on an answer machine that just asks the same two or three questions over and over again but doesn't record what anyone says.

Which two or three questions that you have fully answered have I repeated?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Which two or three questions that you have fully answered have I repeated?

I've been telling you about it all along, thread by thread, sometimes day by day, and you have simply blanked it out and pretended that you're not doing so. And now you ask me this? Like I said, you are like an answer machine that simply doesn't record the messages that anyone leaves.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
[b] you are what you post, we both are.
😀[/b]

That's right.
The difference between you and I is honesty and transparency. If I call you a twit, is that bad? If I call you a willy, is that bad? What about a dick? At what point on the spectrum of name calling does a little word make me a bad person? I say what I mean. However you turn up here everyday and are dishonest. I know what I'd rather be.

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
You don't have to believe me. The fact that you view my questions as a piss-take ritual may be your perception, but you have been avoiding many of the questions or only giving superficial, generic answers. The fact that I think your faith wasn't based on reason and that you were just following the crowd, doesn't mean I can't relate or empathize with you.

Which questions specifically has he been avoiding?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Of course he claims to have had faith, but I would like to know what his faith was based upon? Reason, or simply blind faith with no reason, blindly following the crowd. 1 Peter 1:15 says "Always be prepared to articulate a defense to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have."

He has told you umpteen times what his faith was based on. I don't read all your stuff but I've seen FMF tell you over and over and over again what his faith was based on and never once did he say it was following the crowd. You are dishonest in pretending otherwise. Do you know what the bible says about liars Fetchmyjunk?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Which two or three questions that you have fully answered have I repeated?

Why don't you tell us what your faith is based on so we can see if you are a "real" Christian. Can you "give us an account of the hope that is in you"?

Originally posted by FMF
I've been telling you about it all along, thread by thread, sometimes day by day, and you have simply blanked it out and pretended that you're not doing so. And now you ask me this? Like I said, you are like an answer machine that simply doesn't record the messages that anyone leaves.

Surely then you would be able to quote the exact question that I have repeated day by day.

Originally posted by divegeester
That's right.
The difference between you and I is honesty and transparency. If I call you a twit, is that bad? If I call you a willy, is that bad? What about a dick? At what point on the spectrum of name calling does a little word make me a bad person? I say what I mean. However you turn up here everyday and are dishonest. I know what I'd rather be.

So by 'honesty and transparency' you mean deflecting the questions that I ask you straight back at me without answering them? What have I been dishonest about?

Originally posted by divegeester
Which questions specifically has he been avoiding?

All the ones that he says he can't bother to type the answer to since he has posted 30,000 odd posts which I need to go and revisit.

Originally posted by divegeester
He has told you umpteen times what his faith was based on. I don't read all your stuff but I've seen FMF tell you over and over and over again what his faith was based on and never once did he say it was following the crowd. You are dishonest in pretending otherwise. Do you know what the bible says about liars Fetchmyjunk?

FMF: "I used to believe - like all Christians do - that the Bible was divinely inspired." Believing something simply because all other people do and for no other reason is just 'following the crowd'.

Originally posted by divegeester
Why don't you tell us what your faith is based on so we can see if you are a "real" Christian. Can you "give us an account of the hope that is in you"?

Another question that I have asked you that you have simply deflected back at me with out answering it. Another prime example of your honesty and transparency?

Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
FMF: "I used to believe - like all Christians do - that the Bible was divinely inspired." Believing something simply because all other people do and for no other reason is just 'following the crowd'.

Where did I say that I believed that the Bible was divinely inspired "simply because all other people do and for no other reason"? That is a completely dishonest characterization of what I said. To arrive at a paraphrasing like this you basically have to deliberately ignore almost everything I said.

Originally posted by FMF
Where did I say that I believed that the Bible was divinely inspired "simply because all other people do and for no other reason"? That is a completely dishonest characterization of what I said. To arrive at a paraphrasing like this you basically have to deliberately ignore almost everything I said.

By 'all the other people' in obviously mean 'the other people that had the same faith as you had'. If you didn't find it compelling because they found it compelling what was the real reason then?