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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
FMF: "I used to believe - like all Christians do - that the Bible was divinely inspired." Believing something simply because all other people do and for no other reason is just 'following the crowd'.
This post by you is a perfect example of your rank dishonesty.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Another question that I have asked you that you have simply deflected back at me with out answering it. Another prime example of your honesty and transparency?
It is you who have brought up 1 Peter 3:15 and therefore you who should set the example for others to follow.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
By 'all the other people' in obviously mean 'the other people that had the same faith as you had'. If you didn't find it compelling because they found it compelling what was the real reason then?
For me to state that all Christians believe the Bible is divinely inspired is not in the slightest controversial. Read what I actually write instead of rewriting it incorrectly and dishonestly and then criticizing your version of it.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Surely then you would be able to quote the exact question that I have repeated day by day.
Surely you can explicitly and specifically state what questions you have asked that FMF hasn't answered?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
By 'all the other people' in obviously mean 'the other people that had the same faith as you had'. If you didn't find it compelling because they found it compelling what was the real reason then?
Would you agree that you believe the Bible is divinely inspired?

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Originally posted by FMF
For me to state that all Christians believe the Bible is divinely inspired is not in the slightest controversial. Read what I actually write instead of rewriting it incorrectly and dishonestly and then criticizing your version of it.
From you had said before I gathered you believed the Bible was divinely inspired because the people around you believed it to be true. If that is not the case and you didn't find it compelling because they found it compelling what was the real reason for finding it compelling?

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Originally posted by divegeester
It is you who have brought up 1 Peter 3:15 and therefore you who should set the example for others to follow.
I guess then you are not here to set an example to others? If you read page 14 of this thread you will notice that I have given the reasons why I think it is reasonable to believe the Bible is divinely inspired. Now would you care to give me yours? Or do you have none?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
From you had said before I gathered you believed the Bible was divinely inspired because the people around you believed it to be true. If that is not the case and you didn't find it compelling because they found it compelling what was the real reason for finding it compelling?
I can only think that you are deliberately pretending not to understand. Go and read it again.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Surely you can explicitly and specifically state what questions you have asked that FMF hasn't answered?
I have asked him what evidence specifically would qualify in his eyes as reasonable evidence that the Bible is divinely inspired.

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Originally posted by FMF
I can only think that you are deliberately pretending not to understand. Go and read it again.
And once again you are pretending not to see the question I asked you. Tell me exactly what I have deliberately pretended not to understand.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I guess then you are not here to set an example to others? If you read page 14 of this thread you will notice that I have given the reasons why I think it is reasonable to believe the Bible is divinely inspired. Now would you care to give me yours?
Reasons for believing the Bible is divinely inspired is not what Peter was talking about. What is you persona relationship with God like? How you walk with him day by day? How do you spread the gospel? Giving an account of the hope that is within you is about your personal relationship with God, furthermore, simply believing that the bible is divinely inspired alone, does not make you a Christian.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
And once again you are pretending not to see the question I asked you. Tell me exactly what I have deliberately pretended not to understand.
Because you are ignoring what I wrote and latching on to your own misrepresentation of it instead.

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Originally posted by divegeester
Reasons for believing the Bible is divinely inspired is not what Peter was talking about. What is you persona relationship with God like? How you walk with him day by day? How do you spread the gospel? Giving an account of the hope that is within you is about your personal relationship with God, furthermore, simply believing that the bible is divinely inspired alone, does not make you a Christian.
The biblical term for defense is apologia in the original language. While it may sound very similar to the English word apology, this is not the meaning of the Greek word. Apologia simply means defense, and this is the meaning in 1 Peter 3:15. From apologia, we get the term Apologetics – the branch of Christian theology that deals with the defense and establishment of the Christian faith. This discipline requires considerable study and research in order to gain an expertise in defending the faith against skeptics and atheists who would try to dismantle the Bible and Christian thought.

https://breadoflifefellowship.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/apologia-always-ready-to-give-a-defense-for-the-hope-that-is-in-you-1-peter-315/

I take it then you see no need for apologetics?

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Originally posted by FMF
Because you are ignoring what I wrote and latching on to your own misrepresentation of it instead.
So if I misunderstood what you wrote you cannot clarify it? Are you going to answer the question I asked you or not?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So if I misunderstood what you wrote you cannot clarify it? Are you going to answer the question I asked you or not?
The reasons why I found the Bible compelling and divinely inspired are exactly as I have already stated them. Address them if you want to. Pretend that you don't understand if you want to. Do what you want.

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