Capital Punishment: Murder?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
they at least have some bearing on it and to cite an anomaly is hardly consistent. I
think i have already stated, the answer you seek is unanswerable, at least from a
Biblical perspective.

So, if bbarr's question is unanswerable according to you, then you should have no good reasons for thinking any person that God resurrects will be numerically identical with you. So, what do you really care about all this resurrection talk? You have no good reasons to think that YOU will be brought back about through resurrection. Of course you still believe that despite having no good reasons for it, since like I keep telling you: you do profess life after death for yourself.

Originally posted by LemonJello
So, if bbarr's question is unanswerable according to you, then you should have no good reasons for thinking any person that God resurrects will be numerically identical with you. So, what do you really care about all this resurrection talk? You have no good reasons to think that YOU will be brought back about through resurrection.

that is why its termed a hope, the resurrection hope 🙂

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
that is why its termed a hope, the resurrection hope 🙂

Ah, so you merely hope that you will be resurrected, since you have no good reasons to believe that you will be? So you don't actually believe that you will be resurrected after all?

Now I need more clarification on your stance. It keeps shifting under my feet.

Originally posted by LemonJello
Ah, so you merely hope that you will be resurrected, since you have no good reasons to believe that you will be? So you don't actually believe that you will be resurrected after all?

Now I need more clarification on your stance. It keeps shifting under my feet.

Yes i hope that i will be resurrected if I die before Armageddon, the Bible terms this hope a guarantee though.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Yes i hope that i will be resurrected if I die before Armageddon, the Bible terms this hope a guarantee though.

Again: So you don't actually believe that you will be resurrected after all?

Originally posted by LemonJello
Again: So you don't actually believe that you will be resurrected after all?

yes i hope that i will, in fact, i have no reason to state why i may not be resurrected.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes i hope that i will, in fact, i have no reason to state why i may not be resurrected.

Is it possible for you to simply answer a question directly? Yes or no: do you believe that you will be resurrected? That is, yes or no: do you think it is true that you will be resurrected?

Originally posted by LemonJello
Is it possible for you to simply answer a question directly? Yes or no: do you believe that you will be resurrected? That is, yes or no: do you think it is true that you will be resurrected?

twice i have said yes i have a hope towards God that i will be resurrected, i will not do
so again.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
twice i have said yes i have a hope towards God that i will be resurrected, i will not do
so again.

Clearly, I did not ask if you hope that you will be resurrected. I asked if you believe that you will be resurrected. Do you understand the difference?

One can hope that something will transpire and yet think it very unlikely that it will transpire. So, you haven't answered my question...again.

Originally posted by LemonJello
Clearly, I did not ask if you hope that you will be resurrected. I asked if you believe that you will be resurrected. Do you understand the difference?

One can hope that something will transpire and yet think it very unlikely that it will transpire. So, you haven't answered my question...again.

no, actually I dont, sorry. No i dont think that its unlikely, i think that its quite likely, but
impossible to say with complete certainty.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no, actually I dont, sorry.

You don't believe you will be resurrected; or you don't understand the difference between hope and belief?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no, actually I dont, sorry. No i dont think that its unlikely, i think that its quite likely, but
impossible to say with complete certainty.

I hope Liverpool FC will win the EPL, but i don't believe they will. 🙂

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no, actually I dont, sorry. No i dont think that its unlikely, i think that its quite likely, but
impossible to say with complete certainty.

Ok, thanks. In your edit, finally, you have answered my question.

So yes you do believe that you will be resurrected. But I thought you sort of agreed with me above that you don't have good reasons to believe as such. So, something is amiss here.

Originally posted by LemonJello
You don't believe you will be resurrected; or you don't understand the difference between hope and belief?

yes i dont understand the difference you are placing upon hope and belief, i believe
that i will be resurrected by i cannot say for sure, i also hope that i will be resurrected,
but i cannot say for sure, i dont know why you think these two elements are mutually
exclusive. I both believe and hope that i will resurrected, but i cannot say for sure, is
that any better?

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I hope Liverpool FC will win the EPL, but i don't believe they will. 🙂

that's not a hope, that's a fantasy 😛