08 Mar 19
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@fmf saidNo, do you know any that want that to happen? Can you say that about the death of millions through abortion?
But I'm not "ignoring" anything. Do you think JW parents, for example, have the right to let their infants, toddlers, pre-teens, adolescents, and teenagers die [when they have the legal guardianship over them] for religious reasons?
08 Mar 19
@kellyjay saidIt’s an interesting point. Start a thread on it.
Killing a life to make someone else’s life better is sacrificing that life, gods don’t have to be involved? You think an Atheist should be able to kill the same way and it is not bad because they don’t have a god?
This thread is about religious child sacrifice, specifically by the JWs. It’s also about Philokalia, who thinks the JW version of God who demands this sacrifice is full of “goodness”.
@kellyjay saidParents who allow thier children to die to appease the wishes of their God are committing child sacrifice to that God.
I think it’s selective out rage!
Accusing people of sacrificing their children when that is not the desires of the parents, while ignoring the millions of deaths which is exactly what was wanted!
Agree or not agree..?
08 Mar 19
@divegeester saidThat statement underscores how little you know about child sacrifice.
Abortion may be wrong and it is clearly abhorrent to you, it may even be murder in the minds of some people, but it is not child sacrifice.
Abortion may be wrong? And you call yourself a Christian?
08 Mar 19
@divegeester saidSo is abortion.
Wether or not their beliefs are erroneous (of course they are) is irrelevant, it is child sacrifice.
09 Mar 19
@divegeester saidYour understanding of what a sacrifice is is incoherent. Your OP is just a skewed perspective of reality. Your world view is nothing more than that of an atheist's.
Abortion is not “sacrifice”, you are using the word “sacrifice” incorrectly.
Jehovahs Witnesses believe that receiving a blood transfusion is against the wishes of their version of God. Some JW parents will use their parental authority to override medical experts and prevent their child receiving a blood transfusion even when it will save the child’s life. They do thi ...[text shortened]... t the request of the medical experts.
If you would like to know more, there is a link in the OP.
09 Mar 19
@fmf saidShould anyone who has an abortion be allowed to get pregnant again? You know to stop the slaughter? Should that right be taken away?
But I'm not "ignoring" anything. Do you think JW parents, for example, have the right to let their infants, toddlers, pre-teens, adolescents, and teenagers die [when they have the legal guardianship over them] for religious reasons?
09 Mar 19
@kellyjay saidI don't plan to debate abortion law with you today.
Should anyone who has an abortion be allowed to get pregnant again? You know to stop the slaughter? Should that right be taken away?
I am interested in whether you think the government should intervene in cases where parents are letting their babies, toddlers, pre-teens, and adolescents die for religious reasons.
09 Mar 19
@fmf saidYou are not talking about those who intend to kill their children, that isn't child sacrifice. I am talking about those who want those kids to die, I don't care what they think or don't think about religion, religion has nothing to do with it, killing the children doesn't become bad ONLY IF RELIGION IS INVOLVED, what kind of heart do you have?
I don't plan to debate abortion law with you today.
I am interested in whether you think the government should intervene in cases where parents are letting their babies, toddlers, pre-teens, and adolescents die for religious reasons.
09 Mar 19
@kellyjay saidI understand that you don't think that having an abortion should be legally permitted and you think that governments should interfere to stop them.
You are not talking about those who intend to kill their children, that isn't child sacrifice. I am talking about those who want those kids to die, I don't care what they think or don't think about religion, religion has nothing to do with it, killing the children doesn't become bad ONLY IF RELIGION IS INVOLVED, what kind of heart do you have?
So, do you also think the government should have the right to interfere in situations where children, for the want of medical treatment, are allowed to die because the parents have certain beliefs?
09 Mar 19
@fmf saidLegal has nothing to do with it. It is either the death of a child or not. For me it can be legal or not, either way its the hearts of those that are doing them and getting them that matter not the law.
I understand that you don't think that having an abortion should be legally permitted and you think that governments should interfere to stop them.
So, do you also think the government should have the right to interfere in situations where children, for the want of medical treatment, are allowed to die because the parents have certain beliefs?
People have beliefs about abortions and children die, is control by the government you care about, you want more government control, is it children's deaths, but if so why blood transfusion, and not abortion, is it you just hate religion, and none of the other things really matter?
09 Mar 19
@secondson saidWell unlike you, KellyJay and the pretentious Philokalia , I know that when a parent allows their child to die rather than displease their God ... that is sacrificing your child for your God.
That statement underscores how little you know about child sacrifice.
09 Mar 19
@secondson saidNo it isn’t. Child sacrifice is when a child is sacrificed to a God.
So is abortion.
09 Mar 19
@secondson saidNo it isn’t.
Your understanding of what a sacrifice is is incoherent. Your OP is just a skewed perspective of reality. Your world view is nothing more than that of an atheist's.
No it isn’t.
No it isn’t.