Child sacrifice and “the goodness of their God”

@philokalia said
A perfect example of a post designed simply to frustrate which does not further anyone's understanding in any way.

It's just divegeester's posting pattern to deflect from the topic of discussion because he lacks the biblical worldview necessary for understanding the issues relative human behavior and the reasons for it.

He can't "see" that the root of abortion is in Satan. Instead he spews forth his execrations against Christians posting in this forum.

@divegeester said
I’ve taken a lot of time in this thread to help you understand, just read my posts and let me know if I can help you further.

Deflection.

@divegeester said
Self-worship is not child sacrifice.

You seem very angry.

Child sacrifice(abortion) is self-worship.

I'm not angry. You're delusional if you think so, but I think rather you make that assertion as a tactic of deflection.

@secondson said
Deflection.

Defection from what, exactly?

@secondson said
Child sacrifice(abortion) is self-worship.

No, that’s not what you said. What you said was “abortion is self worship” and I replied, well self worship isn’t child sacrifice.

But I see what you did there 😉

@secondson said
It's just divegeester's posting pattern to deflect from the topic of discussion because he lacks the biblical worldview necessary for understanding the issues relative human behavior and the reasons for it.

He can't "see" that the root of abortion is in Satan. Instead he spews forth his execrations against Christians posting in this forum.

As soon as either of you guys can come up with a reasoned argument as to why letting a child die in order to appease a God is not child sacrifice, please feel free to do so.

Otherwise I guess you can carry on stroking each other.

@divegeester said
Defection from what, exactly?

From exactly everything and anything relative to the topic of discussion, and what is posted by Christians with regards to the topics of discussion in particular.

Is that clear enough for you?

@secondson said
From exactly everything and anything relative to the topic of discussion, and what is posted by Christians with regards to the topics of discussion in particular.

Is that clear enough for you?

I see, so I’m “deflecting from everything and anything” when I said to Philokalia

“I’ve taken a lot of time in this thread to help you understand, just read my posts and let me know if I can help you further”

Pointing him in the direction of my exact, referenced and accurate OP and my clearly written and patient blocks of replies in this thread.

You seem to me to spitting angry, thumping anything into your keyboard irrespective of its incoherence with the posting flow, as long as it gives you a little woody in your underpants.

@secondson said
It's just divegeester's posting pattern to deflect from the topic of discussion because he lacks the biblical worldview necessary for understanding the issues relative human behavior and the reasons for it.

He can't "see" that the root of abortion is in Satan. Instead he spews forth his execrations against Christians posting in this forum.

In one sense dive is right, for one so focused upon themselves they could kill off a child that isn't a sacrifice, the child would have to be valued. Nonetheless it is still killing off a child for a better life, does it matter a god wasn't involved? The shame is that people have become so self centered they value themselves above all else, it is a right to be able to kill another to make their lives what they want. It doesn't get any more selfish than that, the slippery slop has now gotten to the point that people have even stopped trying to protect children born alive, it is no longer just in the mother's womb where they have no value! They now can count their deaths as nothing too even they after they are born. I've read reports where they are drowned after they are born, taken a part to sell off the parts, even kept a live to do that, if people are already there, what is next?

It was ordinary people who worked at the death camps, some who talked about that experience said in the beginning it was hard, but it got easier as time went on and they grew to hate those they were doing these evil things too. Self justification for hate seems to be the norm with evil, people come up reasons to hate, there are always excuses for bad behavior, no need to make an excuse for good behavior.

@divegeester said
As soo as either of you guys can come up with a reasoned argument as to why letting a child die in order to appease a God is not child sacrifice, please feel free to do so.

Otherwise I guess you can carry on stroking each other.

Just as soon as you produce a reasoned argument that proves that refusing medical treatment based on religious belief is child sacrifice.

It's common understanding that refusing medical treatment to save a life is wrong, but to characterize it as "child sacrifice" is idiotic.

The JW's are merely deceived by the Watchtower into believing false doctrines, and through ignorance they allow a child to die.

Your assertion that it is "child sacrifice" is only inflammatory propaganda, which apparently causes you to think you're on to something rational. It isn't, and you're not.

@secondson said
Just as soon as you produce a reasoned argument that proves that refusing medical treatment based on religious belief is child sacrifice.

It's common understanding that refusing medical treatment to save a life is wrong, but to characterize it as "child sacrifice" is idiotic.

The JW's are merely deceived by the Watchtower into believing false doctrines, and through ig ...[text shortened]... nda, which apparently causes you to think you're on to something rational. It isn't, and you're not.

I’ve already explained this several times, keeping protesting that my rational is “idiotic” is poor form SecondSon.

Whether of not the JWs are decieved is irrelevant.
Whether or not “Jehovah” exits is irrelevant.
Whether or not you agree with me is irrelevant.

Permitting your child to die in order to appease the commands of your God is child sacrifice.

@kellyjay said
In one sense dive is right, for one so focused upon themselves they could kill off a child that isn't a sacrifice, the child would have to be valued. Nonetheless it is still killing off a child for a better life, does it matter a god wasn't involved? The shame is that people have become so self centered they value themselves above all else, it is a right to be able to kill a ...[text shortened]... ons to hate, there are always excuses for bad behavior, no need to make an excuse for good behavior.

I hear you. As a society we are being desensitized to the death of the innocent.

@divegeester said
I’ve already explained this several times, keeping protesting that my rational is “idiotic” is poor form SecondSon.

Whether of not the JWs are decieved is irrelevant.
Whether or not “Jehovah” exits is irrelevant.
Whether or not you agree with me is irrelevant.

Permitting your child to die in order to appease the commands of your God is child sacrifice.

And so is the willful termination of an unborn child.

@kellyjay said
In one sense dive is right, for one so focused upon themselves they could kill off a child that isn't a sacrifice, the child would have to be valued. Nonetheless it is still killing off a child for a better life, does it matter a god wasn't involved? The shame is that people have become so self centered they value themselves above all else, it is a right to be able to kill a ...[text shortened]... ons to hate, there are always excuses for bad behavior, no need to make an excuse for good behavior.

Abortion is not “child sacrifice” to a god. There is no god involved.

You may argue that it is murder, that it is immoral, that the government permit it, that parents are accountable for the deaths, that is is the worst thing in the history of bad things. But all of that is irrelevant as abortion is not undertaken to appease a God.

@secondson said
And so is the willful termination of an unborn child.

No it isn’t.

Why don’t you read some of the dozens of threads explaining why. Like my one just above this one for example.