@sonship saidI’ve told you equally as many times that I’m not interested in reporting your waffle. I’ll I’m interested in is calling out your intellectual dishonesty in presenting your posts as being of your creation and not acknowledging where you get this ministry from.
@divegeester
As for plagiarism, multiple times I gave you precise information as to who to report to any plagiarism you objected to - addresses, phone numbers, names, websites.
You never did a thing.
So you can “boo-hoo” all you want sonship, the facts remain that you lift this stuff from other people in your church and present it hear as your own work. Furthermore, no one here recognises you as a “teacher” which you claim you are.
It’s all stollen ideas and hubris isn’t it.
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In the New Testament servants of God encouraged learners under them to imitate not only their teaching but much more their manner of godly living.
Second Timothy 2:1-3 - "You therefore, my child, be empowered in the grace which is in Christ Jesus; and the things which you have heard from me through many witnesses, these commit to faithful men, who will be competent to teach others also. Suffer evil with me as a good soldier of Christ Jesus."
Philippians 4:9 - "The things which you have also learned and received and heard and seen in me, practice these things; and the God of peace will be with you."
Now those too sick with individualism, isolation and independence may not understand that it is normal and healthy for younger Christians to be mentored and shepherded by more mature ones. This is normal in the body of Christ, the church.
Only because of overly occupied with secular ambition, rivalry, jealousy, envy, pride would there be such an obsession of Dive's part with not repeating someone who has benefitted many believers, as he also in turn received help.
Dive had a thread on some about were the miracles of the past all gone now or still around. I didn't read much of it. But I would ask is normal shepherding, emulating, following, mentoring also relegated ONLY to the distant past?
I think the two passages above are enough to show over occupation with plagiarism of a servant of God can get viciously silly.
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@sonship saidBringing in God doesn't excuse you personally of plagiarism.
In the New Testament servants of God encouraged learners under them to imitate not only their teaching but much more their manner of godly living.
[b] Second Timothy 2:1-3 - "You therefore, my child, be empowered in the grace which is in Christ Jesus; and the things which you have heard from me through many witnesses, these commit to faithful men, who will be competent ...[text shortened]... ove are enough to show over occupation with plagiarism of a servant of God can get viciously silly.
Always cite your source.
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@Ghost-of-a-Duke
I site chapter and verse of the Bible so many times around here it annoys just about everyone.
YOU want to concoct a strategy that all logical reference to the Scriptures must be acts of plagiarism.
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@sonship saidNonsense. You frequently copy and paste wads of text without citing the source. You once did this 4 times in 3 minutes and claimed you had written it all out by hand. (Something that was physically impossible.) You then claimed the timestamps here worked differently for you.
@Ghost-of-a-Duke
I site chapter and verse of the Bible so many times around here it annoys just about everyone.
YOU want to concoct a strategy that all logical reference to the Scriptures must be acts of plagiarism.
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@sonship saidStop presenting the minority of other people in hear as being your own.
In the New Testament servants of God encouraged learners under them to imitate not only their teaching but much more their manner of godly living.
[b] Second Timothy 2:1-3 - "You therefore, my child, be empowered in the grace which is in Christ Jesus; and the things which you have heard from me through many witnesses, these commit to faithful men, who will be competent ...[text shortened]... ove are enough to show over occupation with plagiarism of a servant of God can get viciously silly.
Stop elevating yourself in here to “teacher” when you have NO pupils.
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@divegeester saidStop barking commands at other people, you silly mutt.
Stop presenting the minority of other people in hear as being your own.
Stop elevating yourself in here to “teacher” when you have NO pupils.
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@divegeester saidNow is that Weihnachtsstollen or just regular stollen?
I’ve told you equally as many times that I’m not interested in reporting your waffle. I’ll I’m interested in is calling out your intellectual dishonesty in presenting your posts as being of your creation and not acknowledging where you get this ministry from.
So you can “boo-hoo” all you want sonship, the facts remain that you lift this stuff from other people in your ...[text shortened]... cognises you as a “teacher” which you claim you are.
It’s all stollen ideas and hubris isn’t it.
Enquiring minds, you know.
@suzianne saidMmm, “Stollen,” a beautiful word, denoting everything positive and good about Germanic cuisine. Tasty, with raisins and candied fruits, dusted with powdered sugar, and especially around Christmas time, presented with pride and tea when the neighbors drop by for a friendly afternoon chat.
Now is that Weihnachtsstollen or just regular stollen?
Enquiring minds, you know.
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Stop presenting the minority of other people in hear as being your own.
I never said anyone here is my own, whether a minority or majority.
You are a lying liar accusing me of claiming anyone in the Forum is in my ownership. I did say someone was a brother or sister in Christ.
Stop elevating yourself in here to “teacher” when you have NO pupils.
I never claimed to be the best teacher, the official teacher, the only teacher, the elevated teacher, the one qualified teacher, the sole teacher on this Discussion Forum. Of course I seek some to LISTEN to what I am saying. Sorry if you think you have nothing to write worth listening to.
I never claimed anyone were my personal pupils. Stop your lying.
IF you want to say my style seems to have too much teaching or I sound teachy or something like that, maybe I'll accept that criticism somewhat. I do not like to waste people's time, especially people who may be seeking God.
The way I came to the truth is the way I cannot help assuming that others may also come. They'll remember what the word of God SAID.
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@sonship saidYou presume wrongly.
The way I came to the truth is the way I cannot help assuming that others may also come. They'll remember what the word of God SAID.
If you want to get to Chicago, it matters whether you are leaving from Honolulu or Havana. So, you left from New York? What’s that to me? I’m nowhere near New York.
Not the goal determines the path one must take, but the place from which one starts. Everyone starts from his or her own unique place.
If you find yourself on a path which has already been cut, it isn’t yours, it’s someone else’s.
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@moonbus saidWhen the destination has but one path to it, if you are not on it, you will never reach it.
You presume wrongly.
If you want to get to Chicago, it matters whether you are leaving from Honolulu or Havana. So, you left from New York? What’s that to me? I’m nowhere near New York.
Not the goal determines the path one must take, but the place from which one starts. Everyone starts from his or her own unique place.
If you find yourself on a path which has already been cut, it isn’t yours, it’s someone else’s.
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You presume wrongly.
No I do not.
I just do not presume universally. I used the word "others" meaning SOME others.
This gospel has been on the earth for some two thousand years.
It has been like a candle that was used to light another candle to light another and another down through the centuries. That is a flame that does not go out and is passed from person to person.
Now maybe what I described doesn't match you.
I realize that. I did not say ALL come to the truth in the same way I came.
I only meant that I assume some others will come as I did.
And since I have personal experience confirming this I need no one to tell me it is not the case.
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If you want to get to Chicago, it matters whether you are leaving from Honolulu or Havana. So, you left from New York? What’s that to me? I’m nowhere near New York.
Again, if what I said doesn't sound appropriate for you, I would expect exceptions.
God would not be much of a God if He were not accommodating to billions of peoples' different circumstances, situations, etc.
You are probably going to find during the course of your life that multiple opportunities in different kinds of ways you will encounter. If you always refuse salvation this is what will happen. When you come before God He will review your life and probably say something like this:
I sent to you this kind of person. You said "There too much ______".
Then I sent you another kind of person. And you said "This one is too _______".
Then I sent you ANOTHER kind of person. And you still said "This one is bad too."
Then I put you in this kind of situation. You refused Me. "Things are too _____".
Then I put you in this other kind of circumstance. You still closed up your heart.
You are going to be astounded at God's recollection.
Look moonbus. Mankind is at the point where he can keep track of what website you went to, what video you watched, what page you pulled up, how long you stayed there. This is just what human technology can do.
What do you think God can do?
My point here is that you may say "My case is particular. My case requires a unique
very personalized and appropriate situation tailored made just for my case."
That is not any obstacle with God.
The decision of what you do with Jesus Christ is so weighty and consequential I would not want it to depend only on me. Maybe I have planted a little seed. Maybe I have done the opposite. Its between you and Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.