Originally posted by @sonshipG'nite.
Goodnight folks.
Romans1009, at least thanks to you for some substance.
Originally posted by @sonshipThen why not simply acknowledge the point that Ghost of a Duke [a person who has more generosity of spirit and is more principled than you by a long chalk] made to you in his post about what you said rather than lay down a bank of prideful white phosphorous vanity?
"Hey sonship, Jesus flowing out of you all the time ??"
Na. I'm still a work in progress.
22 Feb 18
Originally posted by @sonshipRight, but there are certain movements one makes which accompany the act of contrition.For very minor things, simply regretting the deed is pretty sufficient, but for very major things, while sincere contrition is entirely adequate, it is definitely best for us to tell oru spiritual Father or even just a friend about it and perhaps show contrition through very specific prayer and repentance for forgiveness.
New believers, ...[text shortened]... f believing in Christ. It is only the blood of Jesus that cleanses us before God from every sin.
Originally posted by @romans1009Yes, verses that you are uncomfortable with should not be taken literally.
Jesus Christ is speaking of the severity of sinning - and indirectly speaking of humans’ need for a Saviour to have their sins forgiven.
It would be a mistake to take that verse literally.
Quick, find a verse that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.
Originally posted by @sonshipWas the Biblical quote you ignored also irrelevant? Didn't it case a twinge of regret over the words you had chosen?
Some people like to count the number of edits, how many chess games one has played before discussing, and how much time between posts.They are mostly insignificant factors to content.
I consider all three pretty irrelevant to content of posts.
'The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times.'
Originally posted by @sonshipI asked you, in response to you accusing Rajk999 of being unteachable by you in here, if you can demonstrate how you have been teachable in this forum.
if I were not teachable I would not be able to pass on what I have learned. I had to give up much traditional preconceptions to learn God's economy.
I was taught by carefully checking everything out against the word of God. You assume that all these things came easy with no price.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeIf you meant the remark to encourage me to obey the new testament exhortation that believers should cleanse themselves from all defilement of flesh and of spirit, I take it the advice.
Was the Biblical quote you ignored also irrelevant? Didn't it case a twinge of regret over the words you had chosen?
'The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times.'
Even if you meant something else, I would take what is from the Lord and ignore the extras. And what is from the Lord is between me and the Lord.
But I enjoyed the reference. I haven't seen it in a long time. It was one of the things I learned when God was first teaching me about the word of God. It was like being visited by an old friend.
Notice that it says, the word of God is pure. It didn't say every opinion expressed by the saints is always pure, though sanctification should perfect maturity someday.
But if you are concerned about the purity of words I write, I am also.
" Therefore since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and of spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God." (2 Cor. 7:1)
Yes, I am still in daily the process of "perfecting".
Feel free to remind me whenever you wish.
Better still show me by example from your faith in Jesus and your own living unto God.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeDoes accusation make you feel warm and fuzzy?
Yes, verses that you are uncomfortable with should not be taken literally.
Quick, find a verse that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
Was the Biblical quote you ignored also irrelevant? Didn't it case a twinge of regret over the words you had chosen?
'The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times.'
Was the Biblical quote you ignored also irrelevant?
Because I did not comment on it does not necessarily mean I ignored it.
Didn't it case a twinge of regret over the words you had chosen?
Not too much.
But when I come to God in repentance it is not to experience a twinge of regret. Repentance is not exactly the same as the feeling of regret.
'The words of the Lord are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times.'
Thank God for that.
I had a thread on pray-reading the word of God. And I referred to Peter's expression - "the guileless milk of the word".
God's word - pure, without guile, without destructive intention to make one feel bad for just feeling bad's sake.
I appreciation this passage too:
"For the sorrow according to God works repentance unto salvation, which is without regret;
but the sorrow of the world works out death." (2 Cor. 7:10)
Originally posted by @sonshipLee does not have to say it.
Where has Witness Lee said that he had his own "sheep" ?
By using the Search Engine on [b]www.ministrybooks.org you may locate every instance of the word "sheep" in any of the hundreds of publications of messages by Witness Lee.
Find the quote in which Lee said that he himself had sheep.
What false doctrine did Witness ...[text shortened]... you next post give specific proofs of your two accusations, one, implied and the other explicit.[/b]
If stupid people follow false teachers then they are sheep of false teachers.
The wise follow Christ, and they are the sheep of Christ.
Originally posted by @rajk999My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. (1 John 2:1-5 KJV)
Of course Jesus saved the whole world from sin by his death.
But only those who live righteously get into the Kingdom of God.
Jesus paid the price for the sins of the whole world
The love of God is perfected in those people.who follow his commandments
Those who practice mouth worship will be destroyed.
Originally posted by @rajk999Some of the PhDs. among the saints blessed by brother Witness Lee's ministry would probably be amused to have you inform them that they are stupid.
Lee does not have to say it.
If stupid people follow false teachers then they are sheep of false teachers.
The wise follow Christ, and they are the sheep of Christ.
So you didn't use the search engine.
And you still cannot definitely define a single false doctrine taught by Witness Lee.
I am away from the Forum most of today.
When I return in the evening give me your two STRONGEST examples of a false doctrine taught by brother Witness Lee.
You have all day to surf and find one.
Be ready to back up what you have or borrow from someone else.
Originally posted by @fmfFor sure. The Spirit of God is in many people.
Then why not simply acknowledge the point that Ghost of a Duke [a person who has more generosity of spirit and is more principled than you by a long chalk] made to you in his post about what you said rather than lay down a bank of prideful white phosphorous vanity?
Christians dont have a monopoly on that either.
Some have it without knowing it, neither do they need to know anything.
They just have a desire to do good, and refrain from evil.
Originally posted by @sonshipPhDs ??!! You have PhDs up on a pedestal too?
Some of the PhDs. among the saints blessed by brother Witness Lee's ministry would probably be amused to have you inform them that they are stupid.
So you didn't use the search engine.
And you still cannot definitely define a single false doctrine taught by Witness Lee.
I am away from the Forum most of today.
When I return in the evening give me yo ...[text shortened]... ve all day to surf and find one.
Be ready to back up what you have or borrow from someone else.
Where the hell are you from? Timbuktu ?
Where Im from they are dime a dozen, and PhDs are not necessarily smart when it comes to the teachings of Christ.
Good people gravitate to the teachings of Christ.
Stupid people who like mouth worship gravitate to teachings like that of Lee and Nee.