12 Dec 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyUntil a man changes his mind about Christ (the correct meaning of 'repent'), there is no hope of spiritual birth, eternal salvation and an eternal relationship with God forever in Heaven.
[b]Distilling Spiritual Issues to The Irreducible
As of this moment, the Red Hot Pawn Spirituality Forum has published almost one quarter of a million (to be precise... two hundred and thirty three thousand, seven hundred and sixty one or 233,761) posts since its inception. Most of this incredible volume, well intentioned; much of it, pontificati ...[text shortened]... itual birth, eternal salvation and an eternal relationship with God forever in Heaven. (gb)
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Can you elaborate on exactly what you believe is "the correct meaning of 'repent'"?
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyLOL, brilliant, while I don't actually subscribe to the teaching myself, one must be
One afterlife place that you might not like to go...
http://www.youall.com/HELL/dante.htm
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taken with the pictorial representations, especially the geography of Gustave Doré
1800s Upper Hell, starting on the periphery,
The indecisive
The unbaptised and virtuous pagans (limbo)
The lustful
The gluttonous
the hoarders and the spendthrifts (capitalists and republicans)
the wrathful (militant atheists)
etc
12 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieDid you notice the "(lol)"? Why insert this overused slang qualifer?
LOL, brilliant, while I don't actually subscribe to the teaching myself, one must be
taken with the pictorial representations, especially the geography of Gustave Doré
1800s Upper Hell, starting on the periphery,
The indecisive
The unbaptised and virtuous pagans (limbo)
The lustful
The gluttonous
the hoarders and the spendthrifts (capitalists and republicans)
the wrathful (militant atheists)
etc
Because these graphic representations don't even come close to communicating
the exquisite loneliness and horror of permanent separation from God.
That's why.
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12 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo it doesn't matter if their faith is true or not?
have you been following the case of the lady who committed suicide ... they have absolute confidence in their faith and that it will see them through this ordeal, ...
Religions' only redeeming factor is that it offers an emotional crutch to the weak in their hour of need. Indeed the success of religion is due entirely to
the misfortunes of man.
But now and in the future with rising standards, less poverty, less suffering and
less degradation there will be no need of religion.
12 Dec 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieComforting a chld with stories of the tooth fairy and throughout the year
it seems that they are getting these very things from their faith, how can you explain
that away johnny with your empty promises of nothingness?
with promises of Father Christmas if they are brave works too.
12 Dec 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIf you go back and read my postings
Did you notice the "(lol)"? Why insert this overused slang qualifer?
Because these graphic representations don't even come close to communicating
the exquisite loneliness and horror of permanent separation from God.
That's why.
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you will see that you have not answered my questions.
Nor have you dealt with the facts I put before you.
When will you stop spouting rubbish?
Once again I ask you, Prove to us that God exists.........Facts Facts Facts
not suggestion or supposition or superstition.
Forget your mumbo jumbo hyperbole religious garbage.
Prove as you would in a court of law using FACTUAL evidence,
capable of being accepted without being rejected that
A ) God exists
B ) you will go somewhere else after your death apart from inhabiting
six feet of dirt.
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Originally posted by ThinkOfOneGB, did you miss this? I'd really like to know what you meant.
[b]Until a man changes his mind about Christ (the correct meaning of 'repent'), there is no hope of spiritual birth, eternal salvation and an eternal relationship with God forever in Heaven.
Can you elaborate on exactly what you believe is "the correct meaning of 'repent'"?[/b]
Originally posted by wolfgang59lol, you atheists and anti religionists are a bunch of moaners! emotional crutch or
So it doesn't matter if their faith is true or not?
Religions' only redeeming factor is that it offers an emotional crutch to the weak in their hour of need. Indeed the success of religion is due entirely to
the misfortunes of man.
But now and in the future with rising standards, less poverty, less suffering and
less degradation there will be no need of religion.
support in time of need, nice spin doctor, but its a matter of perspective and clearly you
need an eye test, see your spiritual optician before your myopia gets too acute, if you
are not already certified blind.
12 Dec 12
Originally posted by wolfgang59really, i don't expect they have heard of your tooth fairy, they are after all from
Comforting a chld with stories of the tooth fairy and throughout the year
with promises of Father Christmas if they are brave works too.
Southern India which has rather vibrant spiritual community unaffected by western
materialism and the emptiness that it forebodes.
12 Dec 12
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyYour lack of the necessary frame of reference could be overcome; your refusal to open your mind to possibilities beyond the scope of your opinions can't.
If you go back and read my postings
you will see that you have not answered my questions.
Nor have you dealt with the facts I put before you.
When will you stop spouting rubbish?
Once again I ask you, Prove to us that God exists.........Facts Facts Facts
not suggestion or supposition or superstition.
Forget your mumbo jumbo hyperbole ...[text shortened]...
B ) you will go somewhere else after your death apart from inhabiting
six feet of dirt.
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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThat kind of ridiculous answer would not stand up in a court of law,
Your lack of the necessary frame of reference could be overcome; your refusal to open your mind to possibilities beyond the scope of your opinions can't.
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where all they are interested in are facts,
indisputable facts,
facts which by their very nature cannot be overturned because they are true.
That's why they are called facts.
You obviously don't seem to understand that
as you continue to live in your Disneyland world
of make believe.
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyits a fact that you have limited your search for truth to unintelligent agencies! johnny,
That kind of ridiculous answer would not stand up in a court of law,
where all they are interested in are facts,
indisputable facts,
facts which by their very nature cannot be overturned because they are true.
That's why they are called facts.
You obviously don't seem to understand that
as you continue to live in your Disneyland world
of make believe.
give it up!
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneSure. Your dear wife goes shopping one night with a few close friends. They make an evening of it. She walks into your bedroom after midnight, wakes you up by jostling your unresponsive body with one hand while pointing to the large, red chapeau loaded with sparklies adorning her beautiful blond head with the other: "Honey, wake up. Wake up! Don't you just love my new hat? It's an expensive one-of-a-kind designer hat from Cynthia's Frills & Thrills Boutique on Hillside Avenue." You softly grunt your approval with one eye almost open. Next morning (Saturday, three days before Christmas), Mrs ThinkOfOne arrives at the breakfast table wearing her brand new, highly prized possession along with her lavender bathrobe and fluffy pink slippers. You're reading the sports section. She floats casual small talk. Before very long, she senses her guy isn't all that much impressed. Longer than usual showering, preening and whatever other functions ladies ceremoniously perform before the vanity mirror, daily.... with hat in hand, she opens the door and sidles up to you, pulling you close enough to whisper and says, "It's really not the right one for me, Hon.
GB, did you miss this? I'd really like to know what you meant.
Changed my mind. Taking it back".
http://www.biblestudymanuals.net/repent.htm
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12 Dec 12
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
Sure. Your dear wife goes shopping one night with a few close friends. They make an evening of it. She walks into your bedroom after midnight, wakes you up by jostling your unresponsive body with one hand while pointing to the large, red chapeau loaded with sparklies adorning her beautiful blond head with the other: "Honey, wake up. Wake up! Don't you j ...[text shortened]... d my mind. Taking it back".[/hidden]
http://www.biblestudymanuals.net/repent.htm
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Until a man changes his mind about Christ (the correct meaning of 'repent'😉, there is no hope of spiritual birth, eternal salvation and an eternal relationship with God forever in Heaven.
Can you elaborate on exactly what you believe is "the correct meaning of 'repent'"?
Perhaps the above was unclear. I was asking for you to elaborate on EXACTLY what YOU believe is "the correct meaning of 'repent'" given the above context.