Originally posted by telerionWhat are you babbling about? Here, look:
I should say that the Cosmological Argument is a very weak argument for the necessary existence of God.
Everything has a cause.
Nothing can cause itself.
Everything is caused by another thing.
A causal chain cannot be of infinite length.
There must be a first cause.
Muffy was the first cause.
qed.
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Originally posted by David CYou could just as easily replace "Muffy" with "God".
What are you babbling about? Here, look:
Everything has a cause.
Nothing can cause itself.
Everything is caused by another thing.
A causal chain cannot be of infinite length.
There must be a first cause.
Muffy was the first cause.
qed.
Originally posted by telerionI'm sorry Tel, I couldn't resist:
Perhaps you should pay closer attention to the Doctor's fine work in this thread. He has opened new frontiers in the cosmological argument.
The profundity of the Doctor's revelations can be very hard to grasp, so let me help you along a bit by offering just one of many possible alternative solutions.
"A greater God created your god and this gre ...[text shortened]... ind a cause for this cause. And then another for this new cause. Continue ad infinitum.
Here's a summation of your argument:
THE CIRCULAR DIVINE POWER ARGUMENT
1.If God exists, then His existence must be the work of God.
2.This is a circular argument that I pulled out of my nether regions. It has no basis in logic or reality.
3.Therefore, God doesn’t exist.
Originally posted by HalitoseCertainly true. You see providing dj2 with well-constructed arguments is a waste of time. He can't tell a good argument from sentence fragment. This used to exasperate me to no end. Then some months ago, I hit on the idea of responding to dj2's horrible arguments with slightly broader versions of the same argument.
I'm sorry Tel, I couldn't resist:
Here's a summation of your argument:
THE CIRCULAR DIVINE POWER ARGUMENT
1.If God exists, then His existence must be the work of God.
2.This is a circular argument that I pulled out of my nether regions. It has no basis in logic or reality.
3.Therefore, God doesn’t exist.
Then he gets all cock sure of himself, and smugly refutes a more fully developed version of his own position. The best thing is he never figures it out! Hell, he's just starting to catch onto the Muffy thing, and that's many months old now.
When you encounter a brick wall, don't bother beating it down. Have some fun with it. Maybe play handball or paint graffiti.
Originally posted by Halitose..."oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly
THE CIRCULAR DIVINE POWER ARGUMENT
1.If God exists, then His existence must be the work of God.
2.This is a circular argument that I pulled out of my nether regions. It has no basis in logic or reality.
3.Therefore, God doesn’t exist.[/b]
vanishes in a puff of logic.