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24 Oct 12
does prayer work?
Yes Yes Yes.
Our family recently encountered a life threatening injury with our son.
As I held him in my arms waiting for the ambulance I prayed over him.
In the Emergency Room I prayed over him. I prayed for his surgeons and nurses to have steady hands and wisdom.
Prayer went out for him from family, friends and strangers as he was in the O.R
Yes he had the Best surgical staff at the best trauma hospital.
He survived and will recover. Praise be to God.
His surgeon told my family and him that it was a miracle he survived his type of injury.
With his skill and knowledge he still admitted to a 'miracle'.
I can only attribute this to 'Prayer'. Nothing more.
So my answer to Galveston and all others is yes.
If some of you have read my posts before you will know that I already professed the power of prayer before this traumatic accident my son sustained.
I walk by faith not by sight. Praise be to God.
24 Oct 12
Originally posted by Proper KnobMurder? Ummm, no.
So only the JW's will survive the Great Tribulation and all others will 'perish'. Seeing as how there are a only a few million JW's on the planet, that's a considerable amount of people who are going to 'perish', most of the planet in fact. As i said to Ronald in another thread, 'perish' means ending someones life and if that is done without that persons ...[text shortened]... in the future your Biblical God is going to murder the entire planet except the JW's.
Most people with even a shred of reading comprehension can figure out that one of the main messages of the Bible is that sin is a bad thing, and it will result in punishment, unless you accept the gift of redemption and eternal life through Christ Jesus.
So don't consider it murder, any more than people on death row are being murdered. Consider it a form of Capital Punishment. Punishment for sin. Even a casual reading of the Bible tells you that "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23). The good news is that there is a way out. You are given the solution to your problem. Logically then, if you refuse the solution, then you accept the punishment. So take care of the problem or quit crying about it.
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24 Oct 12
Originally posted by Suziannemost people with a shred of morality know that capital punishment is murder.
Murder? Ummm, no.
Most people with even a shred of reading comprehension can figure out that one of the main messages of the Bible is that sin is a bad thing, and it will result in punishment, unless you accept the gift of redemption and eternal life through Christ Jesus.
So don't consider it murder, any more than people on death row are being murder ...[text shortened]... lution, then you accept the punishment. So take care of the problem or quit crying about it.
24 Oct 12
Originally posted by SuzianneMurder? Ummm, no.
Murder? Ummm, no.
Most people with even a shred of reading comprehension can figure out that one of the main messages of the Bible is that sin is a bad thing, and it will result in punishment, unless you accept the gift of redemption and eternal life through Christ Jesus.
So don't consider it murder, any more than people on death row are being murder ...[text shortened]... lution, then you accept the punishment. So take care of the problem or quit crying about it.
Ummm, yes.
unless you accept the gift of redemption and eternal life through Christ Jesus.
Ahhh yes. The 'believe or die' doctrine.
So don't consider it murder, any more than people on death row are being murdered.
Well i consider capital punishment to be murder. So that analogy is not really working out for ya.
Consider it a form of Capital Punishment.
Capital punishment for something as innocuous as not believing the Biblical God exists. Delightful. Remind me where 'love' fits into this scheme of Gods again?
So take care of the problem or quit crying about it.
So the message is this - 'Accept Gods love otherwise he will kill me'?! I can assure i'm not 'crying' about anything.
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24 Oct 12
Originally posted by Suzianneyes, as do most developed nations. yes its because i have morality and an ounce emotional intelligence.
wow, I don't even know where to go with that.
you think capital punishment is murder, AND you think that is because you have morality.
just wow.
have a view of this at your leisure.
http://www.ted.com/talks/david_r_dow_lessons_from_death_row_inmates.html
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24 Oct 12
Originally posted by SuzianneYes. It's because we have decent morality and you don't.
wow, I don't even know where to go with that.
you think capital punishment is murder, AND you think that is because you have morality.
just wow.
WE are the ones with decent morals that are properly grounded in morality.
Morality does not and cannot come from a god of any stripe.
And it certainly does not come from the bible or bible god.
Which advocates among other things capital punishment and slavery.
If you hadn't realised that by now you are really not paying attention to what we are saying.
24 Oct 12
Originally posted by Proper KnobFor those that refuse to believe the truth from God:
[b]Murder? Ummm, no.
Ummm, yes.
unless you accept the gift of redemption and eternal life through Christ Jesus.
Ahhh yes. The 'believe or die' doctrine.
So don't consider it murder, any more than people on death row are being murdered.
Well i consider capital punishment to be murder. So that analogy is not really work ...[text shortened]... t Gods love otherwise he will kill me'?! I can assure i'm not 'crying' about anything.[/b]
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
(2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 NKJV)
24 Oct 12
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Originally posted by Suzianneindeed it is. to anyone with a higher sense of moral development.
wow, I don't even know where to go with that.
you think capital punishment is murder, AND you think that is because you have morality.
just wow.
my sense of morality goes higher still:
state sanctioned killing of any kind is murder.
any act of a conscious decision to kill is murder.
some murder, such as killing in self defense can be justified to a certain extend. but we must be careful not to allow this get out of hand (such as the stand your ground laws). all such cases should be decided in court.
24 Oct 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritso abortion is essentially murder, thank you for clearing that up.
indeed it is. to anyone with a higher sense of moral development.
my sense of morality goes higher still:
state sanctioned killing of any kind is murder.
any act of a conscious decision to kill is murder.
some murder, such as killing in self defense can be justified to a certain extend. but we must be careful not to allow this get out of hand (such as the stand your ground laws). all such cases should be decided in court.