Originally posted by googlefudgeYou may call me Ms. Suzianne. 😀
Technically speaking googlefudge (when it is my username) is one word, so shouldn't that be Mr googlefudge?
Or possibly Mr google (or just Mr G? if your going for the bond villain turn) if you're going to contract it...
Mr fudge just sounds weird...
Although frankly sticking Mr in front of most user names sounds weird.... Anachronistic even...
...[text shortened]... than
electronic communications in an internet forum.
Anyhow, good on the point question.
Originally posted by googlefudgeWhat makes you use an argument that you do not think is true? I think it is because you are influenced by evil, Satan the devil. Just saying, Spanky. 😏
And sin was created by your god... (in your fictional fairy story)
In fact everything was created by your god, the rules, the punishments, the world... everything.
Thus you can't claim that ANYTHING does not buck stop with your god because according to you,
your god created EVERYTHING.
Your god created a tree of knowledge in his garden of Eden ...[text shortened]... god.
And thus your gods fault.
At least it would be if your religion was actually true.
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Originally posted by RJHindsWhat makes you think that I used an argument I don't think is true?
What makes you use an argument that you do not think is true? I think it is because you are influenced by evil, Satan the devil. Just saying, Spanky. 😏
Hint, I didn't, so you are talking bunk as usual.
Originally posted by googlefudgeIt reads like graffiti on a lavatory wall with the same content.
For reference because you are obviously incapable of going back and reading posts properly...
[quote]Originally posted by robbie carrobie
[b]you are taking the life of an innocent, it is therefore premeditated murder. Here again is
the voidreasons criteria,
state sanctioned killing of any kind is murder.
any act of a conscious decision ...[text shortened]... oughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/10/21/bad-argument-3-science-says-what/
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Originally posted by googlefudgei like mr.fudge, it makes you sound like a lovable cartoon character, spreading the word of atheism to the children of the world.
Technically speaking googlefudge (when it is my username) is one word, so shouldn't that be Mr googlefudge?
Or possibly Mr google (or just Mr G? if your going for the bond villain turn) if you're going to contract it...
Mr fudge just sounds weird...
Although frankly sticking Mr in front of most user names sounds weird.... Anachronistic even...
...[text shortened]... than
electronic communications in an internet forum.
Anyhow, good on the point question.
Originally posted by googlefudgeYou wrote, "In fact everything was created by your god, the rules, the punishments, the world... everything.
What makes you think that I used an argument I don't think is true?
Hint, I didn't, so you are talking bunk as usual.
.......
Your god created a tree of knowledge in his garden of Eden, created Lucifer, and created Adam and Eve.
Your god created the rule about not eating from the tree, and the punishment.
So it was and must have been INTENDED by your god.
And thus your gods fault. "
So now are you saying you believe God created everything. If not, then you are using an argument you really don't think is true. If you think the argument is true, then God must have created everything, as you said.
Originally posted by RJHindshe's describing the theistic argument and why it breaks down.
You wrote, "In fact everything was created by your god, the rules, the punishments, the world... everything.
.......
Your god created a tree of knowledge in his garden of Eden, created Lucifer, and created Adam and Eve.
Your god created the rule about not eating from the tree, and the punishment.
So it was and must have been INTENDED by your god ...[text shortened]... true. If you think the argument is true, then God must have created everything, as you said.
lack of reading comprehension is chronic in the theists of this forum.
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Originally posted by RJHindsYeah I thought this was the way you were failing but I had to make sure.
You wrote, "In fact everything was created by your god, the rules, the punishments, the world... everything.
.......
Your god created a tree of knowledge in his garden of Eden, created Lucifer, and created Adam and Eve.
Your god created the rule about not eating from the tree, and the punishment.
So it was and must have been INTENDED by your god ...[text shortened]... true. If you think the argument is true, then God must have created everything, as you said.
I don't believe your god exists.
Mainly because your god does not in fact exist.... Thus making believing in your god pretty pointless.
However.
The fact that I don't believe your god is real does not mean that I can't make arguments about that
god IF it were real (as you and yours believe it is).
As your god (or at least it's actions) are described by you and your bible I can make arguments about what
those purported actions mean and my arguments can be true (and generally are) independent of the existence
of the being in question.
In the same way that you can make an argument about a hypothetical situation and believe the argument to
hold and be true without that situation ever actually happening.
I realise that you struggle to cope with hypotheticals but that is hardly my fault.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieDo tell me which part of the JW manual tells you that
It reads like graffiti on a lavatory wall with the same content.
"when your arguments are proven wrong and/or you are caught lying. Insult the person who defeats you/catches you out
and then run away..."?
Because you have got that bit down to a fine art.
Originally posted by googlefudgeanother person who believes their own propaganda, neeeeexxt!
Do tell me which part of the JW manual tells you that
"when your arguments are proven wrong and/or you are caught lying. Insult the person who defeats you/catches you out
and then run away..."?
Because you have got that bit down to a fine art.
Just a "bunch of cells" huh?
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