Spirituality
13 Aug 13
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyTrue Story
Note: Later in academic circles I made close friends with atheist students who openly stated how alone and vertically untethered their lives seemed. To this day, they represent the Gold Standard of candid intellectual honesty for me.
An atheist walks into a bar (a student bar) and says
"I am alone and my life feels vertically untethered."
The bar quickly empties apart from Bob The Christian who presents the
poor atheist with a gold sticker and congratulates him on his intellectual
honesty.
It's a sit-com waiting to be written.
Call it "Not The Big Bang Theory"
Originally posted by wolfgang59This sounds like the murmurings of an madman. A puddle thinking and asking questions. It takes an ignoramous to quote such insanity.
So you imagine the universe has been designed for us?
... imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an
interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits
me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact, it fits me staggeringly well, must
have been made to have me in it!'
[b]Douglas Adams[/b]
The Instructor
Originally posted by wolfgang59The key word is imagine
So you imagine the universe has been designed for us?
... imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an
interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits
me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact, it fits me staggeringly well, must
have been made to have me in it!'
Douglas Adams[i]Originally posted ...[text shortened]...
A puddle thinking and asking questions. It takes an ignoramous to quote such insanity.
Originally posted by wolfgang59
So you imagine the universe has been designed for us?
... imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an
interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits
me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact, it fits me staggeringly well, must
have been made to have me in it!'
[b]Douglas Adams[/b]
So you imagine the universe has been designed for us?
Yes. I believe the whole big tremendous thing was made for man.
At least the evidence is that it knew we were coming.
Originally posted by sonshipSo you think that the universe was designed for us rather than we were designed for the universe?So you imagine the universe has been designed for us?
Yes. I believe the whole big tremendous thing was made for man.
At least the evidence is that it knew we were coming.
What evidence is there that points you to that conclusion rather than the second?
Originally posted by wolfgang59Homes, condos and apartments: designed for people?
So you think that the universe was designed for us rather than we were designed for the universe?
What evidence is there that points you to that conclusion rather than the second?
People: Designed for homes, condos and apartments?
Commonsense.
Edit: Same as the Pyramidal Food Chain.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyYour simplistic analogy fails on two points;
Homes, condos and apartments: designed for people?
People: Designed for homes, condos and apartments?
Commonsense.
Edit: Same as the Pyramidal Food Chain.
1. Homes, condos and apartments are designed by people, the universe manifestly isn't.
2. Homes, condos and apartments were not present before people:, the universe was.
"Commonsense" fails to deliver anything worthwhile when discussing cosmology.
Originally posted by wolfgang59So you think that we were designed for the universe?
Your simplistic analogy fails on two points;
1. Homes, condos and apartments are designed by people, the universe manifestly isn't.
2. Homes, condos and apartments were not present before people:, the universe was.
"Commonsense" fails to deliver anything worthwhile when discussing cosmology.
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIn a loose sense yes.
So you think that we were designed for the universe?
What worked survived.
What didn't work didn't survive.
But I do not believe in Intelligent Design as you well know.
However anyone who does believe in Intelligent Design would surely think that we were designed for an existing universe rather than vice versa. Yes?