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@indonesia-phil saidFor one I don't believe in a single lifeform transforming through natural selection in evolutionary change. In our world with complex life, even a single cell's complex nature is beyond our understanding, we have no natural explanation for life to start, and neither can we describe any reason why a natural process does the things we know are occurring in life. Looking at the universe from a godless view the universe has no "a prior" causes for there to be anything, reasons that can account for anything, you are left with, "it just is." The world just is, is not a reason, it is only an acknowledgment of no reasons, and seeing the complex nature in life, then turning around and calling that acknowledgment an illusion is the real illusion.
How do you conclude that the nature of this world is now to decay? Everything dies, and then, you know, new things are born, that is the nature of nature. Once upon a time, for about half a billion years, there was only single - celled life, now there are elephants.
@kellyjay saidWhen did I ask about what happened 'due to god'? If you are now reduced to inventing questions which people ask you, then providing meaningless answers then you are talking to yourself. Perhaps that's the only way that you can convince yourself that you're right, but it implies desperation.
You asked about what happened due to God and now you are complaining about God in the answer.
You are also saying your worldview has no reasoning to explain what you believe it is, I guess you can avoid contradictions if you have no reasoning to defend.
Science is all about 'reasoning', and can apply 'reasoning' without having to search for a 'reason'. If understanding that is too much of a giant intellectual leap for you then go away and think really hard about it. And yes, contradictions can be avoided if you don't hold contradictory beliefs, as you do. In these forums your religion has time and time again been exposed as contradictory within its' own bounds and as it relates to the real world, and you have not once addressed any of these blatant contradictions.
@kellyjay saidWhat you believe and don't believe has nothing to do with that which actually is. If you are presented with scientifically proven facts and you refuse to believe them, in other words if you deny the findings of science, then you are only left with belief in mythology. As regards 'reasons', I refer you to my last post.
For one I don't believe in a single lifeform transforming through natural selection in evolutionary change. In our world with complex life, even a single cell's complex nature is beyond our understanding, we have no natural explanation for life to start, and neither can we describe any reason why a natural process does the things we know are occurring in life. Looking at th ...[text shortened]... ature in life, then turning around and calling that acknowledgment an illusion is the real illusion.
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@indonesia-phil saidYou have not provided any scientific facts just proclamations about what you think is true scientifically. So produce something, argue a point, give the reasons you think what people say is true. Is! If you can’t do that how are you sure those people you agree with are right? You take what is said on faith or do you weigh the evidence to see if it lines up?
What you believe and don't believe has nothing to do with that which actually is. If you are presented with scientifically proven facts and you refuse to believe them, in other words if you deny the findings of science, then you are only left with belief in mythology. As regards 'reasons', I refer you to my last post.
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@kellyjay saidTell me this, KellyJay: who is primarily responsible for the evil of drug addiction? The addict at the end of the chain? Or the pusher who sells it to him? Or the cartel which manufactures it?
They both knew what they were doing, as you do, when you deny what you know to be true you run down the same path.
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@pettytalk saidThat isn’t “a question on evolution”.
Here is a question on Evolution.
If KellyJay proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Evolution is just a flaky theory without substantial evidence to back it up, will all evolutionists arguing with him voluntarily become one with his faith?
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@pettytalk saidThe problem is sir, it is a factual statement that we evolved as a species and did not originate in a garden as fully formed humans.
Here is a question on Evolution.
If KellyJay proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Evolution is just a flaky theory without substantial evidence to back it up, will all evolutionists arguing with him voluntarily become one with his faith?
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@pettytalk saidNothing about evolution we are discussing automatically mean my religious beliefs are correct.
Here is a question on Evolution.
If KellyJay proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Evolution is just a flaky theory without substantial evidence to back it up, will all evolutionists arguing with him voluntarily become one with his faith?
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"it is a factual statement that we evolved as a species and did not originate in a garden as fully formed humans." Oh, my! Nobody know for fact how it all started. One can believe in evolution or have faith that God created us but nobody KNOWS for sure. If it was evolution, who says God didn't set it up that way? How about the Big Bang? Was that the first sentence in the old testament? Everyone thinks they have the answers. It's pretty humorous.
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@eyemytwinsum saidEvolution doesn't relate to how anything started.
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"it is a factual statement that we evolved as a species and did not originate in a garden as fully formed humans." Oh, my! Nobody know for fact how it all started. One can believe in evolution or have faith that God created us but nobody KNOWS for sure. If it was evolution, who says God didn't set it up that way? How about the Big Bang? Was that t ...[text shortened]... first sentence in the old testament? Everyone thinks they have the answers. It's pretty humorous.