@divegeester saidYes.
So you believe that evolution from single called organisms over billions of years is God creating man?
Are we now in “God’s image” or is that still to come?
How do you know?
Yes.
How do I know?
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." -- Genesis 1:27, KJV
The Word of God says so.
@suzianne saidHow do you reconcile that with your belief in evolution and
How do I know?
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." -- Genesis 1:27, KJV
The Word of God says so.
(I hope) the knowledge that we are continuously evolving?
At what stage in our evolution were/are/will we be in his image?
@suzianne saidBut your argument is that “evolution is the tool” of the creation of mankind, so are you claiming that the human race has stopped evolving at the point of being in God’s image, and if so when did this biogenesis phenomenon occur?
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." -- Genesis 1:27, KJV
The Word of God says so.
@wolfgang59 saidWhat if God's image is continuously evolving and never static (I have certainly seen powerful phenomenon represented by clouds of constantly moving images now that technology permits). What if God's image refers to a powerful pluripotent ever changing thing, such that the pluripotent nature of evolution is in that image (as opposed to just referring to the appearance of man at one static moment in time).
How do you reconcile that with your belief in evolution and
(I hope) the knowledge that we are continuously evolving?
At what stage in our evolution were/are/will we be in his image?
@divegeester saidWell I guess I will just have to wait and wait and wait for Suzianne to reply or maybe just agree with what another poster has said for her.
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@petewxyz said“For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.'
What if God's image is continuously evolving and never static (I have certainly seen powerful phenomenon represented by clouds of constantly moving images now that technology permits). What if God's image refers to a powerful pluripotent ever changing thing, such that the pluripotent nature of evolution is in that image (as opposed to just referring to the appearance of man at one static moment in time).
Malachi 3:6 ESV
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@ghost-of-a-duke saidPresumably that quote makes sense within a certain context. On the face of it, it reads like reassuring somebody that there has been no change regarding the issue of consuming people as opposed to a comment on God's image in general. Presumably a deity isn't a static phenomenon. A human being could certainly be consistent and predictable around the issue of consuming people without it being implied they were completely static.
“For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.'
Malachi 3:6 ESV
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@petewxyz saidI believe there are numerous biblical references to the unchanging nature of God. (The reason why the differences in his persona between the Old and New Testaments is so jarring from a non-Christian perspective).
Presumably that quote makes sense within a certain context. On the face of it, it reads like reassuring somebody that there has been no change regarding the issue of consuming people as opposed to a comment on God's image in general. Presumably a deity isn't a static phenomenon. A human being could certainly be consistent and predictable around the issue of consuming people without it being implied they were completely static.
@petewxyz saidThat is an option.
What if God's image is continuously evolving and never static (I have certainly seen powerful phenomenon represented by clouds of constantly moving images now that technology permits). What if God's image refers to a powerful pluripotent ever changing thing, such that the pluripotent nature of evolution is in that image (as opposed to just referring to the appearance of man at one static moment in time).
But would that mean that when we were single-celled creature ... so was god?
The logical conclusion of god evolving alongside us is that he is a product of evolution too. And if god and Man co-evolve ... who is in whose image?
02 Sep 20
@ghost-of-a-duke saidYou could argue that "image" and "nature" are different.
I believe there are numerous biblical references to the unchanging nature of God. (The reason why the differences in his persona between the Old and New Testaments is so jarring from a non-Christian perspective).
His changing image reflects Man's current evolutionary position.
His unchanging nature is ... violent, vengeful, jealous ...
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@wolfgang59 saidHow much 'evolving' have we been doing since, say, the discovery of agriculture?
How do you reconcile that with your belief in evolution and
(I hope) the knowledge that we are continuously evolving?
At what stage in our evolution were/are/will we be in his image?
@divegeester saidYou can answer the same question I posed above.
But your argument is that “evolution is the tool” of the creation of mankind, so are you claiming that the human race has stopped evolving at the point of being in God’s image, and if so when did this biogenesis phenomenon occur?
@divegeester saidWhen will you ever reconcile yourself to the fact that others have a different schedule than you, that their lives are not run by the activities of this forum? You always try to run people down when they don't subscribe to your schedule, posting when you want them to. Have some damned patience.
Well I guess I will just have to wait and wait and wait for Suzianne to reply or maybe just agree with what another poster has said for her.
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