For Everyone who judges

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I like that you come to this forum secretly eager to learn from an atheist.

And in answer to your question, why is your God so wasteful? Why create 250 million sperm if only one will do the job? Why create 2 billion uninhabited galaxies and only put life on one planet?

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I like that you come to this forum secretly eager to learn from an atheist.

I have nothing against an atheist reciting to me accurate facts. I do not have to accept atheistic interpretations of them.

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And in answer to your question, why is your God so wasteful? Why create 250 million sperm if only one will do the job? Why c ...[text shortened]... g[/b] glory and perfection and justice of such an unlimited God. We should want Him as our Father.

@sonship said

I don't know about life anywhere. It is simply and unknown to me. And it is unknown to you and to Gene Roddenberry (Star Trek's author) and to Carl Sagan just as much. None of us know. We can wish various things. But we don't KNOW of another galaxy's or planet's civilization.

@sonship said

God does not forbid man to reach out with greater and greater knowledge to discover. Why should we be mad if He saw beforehand to keep us astounded?

@rajk999 said
So is the Earth 6,000 yrs old?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel[c]—be ...[text shortened]... e whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth."

(Genesis 11)

Another word about my OP.

The disconnect between God's creative power and God's goodness is missed.
The overlooking of the connection is typical of many skeptical non-believers.

They may readily grasp that Energy is another form of Mass.
Or that they are somewhat the same thing in a convertible way.

But the same minds cannot see that the Righteousness of God corresponds to
the power of His wisdom and the ability of His creativity.

God wanted man to reign.
God wanted man to rule.
God wanted man to express Him as a deputy authority over all that He made, the spoken and the unspoken. It is in the reason for God creating humanity in Genesis 1:26,27.

"And God said, Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of heaven and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every creeping thing which creeps upon the earth.

And God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

These two words are key to understand the purpose for this creature man:
Image and Dominion. The invisible uncreated eternal Person wanted a being in His own image to express God and to exercise righteous, holy, and glorious dominion over all He created.

"The last Adam" - "the second man" Christ brings the fallen, distracted, side-tracked, deceived mankind back to His purpose:

"Your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first ...

SEEK FIRST . . .

SEEK FIRST . . .

SEEK FIRST His kingdom and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Matt. 6:32b,33)

What should we seek first?
Carl Sagan, Gene Roddenbbery ... ?
What should we seek FIRST?

@sonship said
Abraham and Adam are in the thousands of years ago.

The beginning of everything stretches back far before Adam.
It is in the pre-adamic time Lucifer had his prior career.

What we see in the six days of Genesis 1 is a partial creation and restoration of a previous world that had become waste and void under God's judgment.

You know it is weird to see someon ...[text shortened]... th another person at EVERY conceivable turn that he reads into every word he writes something wrong.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel[c]—be ...[text shortened]... e whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth."

(Genesis 11)

@rajk999 said
Im eager to read and understand your point of view on certain topics and doctrines. You are eager to duck and weave and avoid stating with any kind of clarity and decisiveness what you believe. Honest straightforward people speak in simple clear language and to the point. You are a shyster and a deceiver.

And, you still have not answered the question.

Abraham and Adam are in the thousands of years ago.

The beginning of everything stretches back far before Adam.
It is in the pre-adamic time Lucifer had his prior career.

@sonship said
Right. God frustrated man from carrying out that plan apart from depending on Him.

The point is taken that there God did not allow man to use all his knowledge to erect such a proud monumental civilization of defiance and rebellion against God. And you would not have liked living in that world. It would be a dystopia. Man was infested and united with God's enemy.

@sonship said

Abraham and Adam are in the thousands of years ago.

The beginning of everything stretches back far before Adam.
It is in the pre-adamic time Lucifer had his prior career.

That's the answer I gave you.
Its not hard to understand if you're as "eager" as you say you are.

@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I think you are experiencing word blindness. The meaning is quite clear with the words, "nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

@sonship said
@Ghost-of-a-Duke

I think you are experiencing word blindness. The meaning is quite clear with the words, "nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

I have considered every word. I try to muse, pray over, digest every word the Bible.

I have thought abou ...[text shortened]... on, enmity, and distrust of God's love. Sitting at a feast I don't hunt only for a bone to choke on.