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@fmf said
So, ballpark figure, how many of the world's 2.2 billion Christians, do you think, is doing good works "not possible" for them?

You're making no sense. Gibberish for sure.
How many people who came to the Lord on their deathbeds, were able to do good works before their deaths?
Ballpark figure?

@kingdavid403 said
You're making no sense. Gibberish for sure.
How many people who came to the Lord on their deathbeds, were able to do good works before their deaths?

What you seem to be extracting from the story of Jesus is that, because, he is God, you believe he can "save" anyone he wants, that means that the teaching of Jesus is: you don't have to obey him, you don't have to do good works, you don't have to strive to obey his commandments.

You seem to stretching so hard to reach for a populist, do-nothing, hassle-free ideology that leads to eternal life ~ which is your prerogative, of course, but there is a coherence issue.

On one hand, you have the enormity of Jesus' sacrifice, and from that you cling to the line-of-least-resistance-ideology that appears to just dismiss the actual teaching of Jesus while he walked the Earth.

Take a look at the Very User Friendly Diet.

@kingdavid403 said
How many people who came to the Lord on their deathbeds, were able to do good works before their deaths?
Ballpark figure?

I don't know. But does your belief in deathbed conversions mean that the teaching of Jesus, for Christians, is as follows: you don't have to obey him, you don't have to do good works, you don't have to strive to obey his commandments? Is that was Jesus' execution at the hands of the Romans means to you?

@fmf said
What you seem to be extracting from the story of Jesus is that, because, he is God, you believe he can "save" anyone he wants, that means that the teaching of Jesus is: you don't have to obey him, you don't have to do good works, you don't have to strive to obey his commandments.

You seem to stretching so hard to reach for a populist, do-nothing, hassle-free ideology that lea ...[text shortened]... actual teaching of Jesus while he walked the Earth.

Take a look at the Very User Friendly Diet.

What you seem to be extracting from the story of Jesus is that, because, he is God, you believe he can "save" anyone he wants, that means that the teaching of Jesus is: you don't have to obey him, you don't have to do good works, you don't have to strive to obey his commandments.
Please show us all where I extracted this from the Gospels of Jesus liar boy?

You seem to stretching so hard to reach for a populist, do-nothing, hassle-free ideology that leads to eternal life ~ which is your prerogative, of course, but there is a coherence issue.

Where do I seem to be stretching hard for a populist, liar troll boy?

On one hand, you have the enormity of Jesus' sacrifice, and from that you cling to the line-of-least-resistance-ideology that appears to just dismiss the actual teaching of Jesus while he walked the Earth.
Please show us ALL where I said, or did this, liar troll boy? LOL...
As I already said; you already lost liar boy. lol...

@kingdavid403 said
Please show us all where I extracted this from the Gospels of Jesus liar boy?

Where do I seem to be stretching hard for a populist, liar troll boy?

Please show us ALL where I said you did this liar troll boy? LOL...

Just follow the conversation and read what I am saying in response to your posts.

Do you have to follow Jesus' teachings?

Do you have to do good works?

Do you have to strive to obey God's commandments?

DO you have to strive to avoid "sin" and lead as righteous a life as you can?

Your answer appears to be "NO" to all four of these.

Your pitch seems to be that Jesus died so that you could answer the four questions above with "NO".

@fmf said
Just follow the conversation and read what I am saying in response to your posts.

Do you have to follow Jesus' teachings?

Do you have to do good works?

Do you have to strive to obey God's commandments?

DO you have to strive to avoid "sin" and lead as righteous a life as you can?

Your answer appears to be "NO" to all four of these.

Your pitch seems to be that Jesus died so that you could answer the four questions above with "NO".

Your pitch seems to be that Jesus died so that you could answer the three questions above with "NO".
No, that's your liar's pitch, not a strike either liar boy. lol... You're still losing liar troll boy (you already lost)..,

@kingdavid403 said
No, that's your liar pitch, not a strike either liar boy.

I am getting these points from what you have been posting, as my posts - and the posts of yours that my posts are replying to - are making clear.

@kingdavid403 said
lol... You're still losing liar troll boy (you already lost)..,

You are selling yourself short with this kind of "banter".

@fmf said
I am getting these points from what you have been posting, as my posts - and the posts of yours that my posts are replying to - are making clear.

@fmf said
I am getting these points from what you have been posting, as my posts - and the posts of yours that my posts are replying to - are making clear.
You got nothing of the sort from my posts. Please share with us all where you got these lies? liar troll boy?

@fmf said
Do you have to follow Jesus' teachings?

Do you have to do good works?

DO you have to strive to avoid "sin" and lead as righteous a life as you can?

If I lead my life under the influence of Jesus' teachings. If I do good works. If I strive to avoid immorality and lead as righteous a life as I can, do you believe I will be "saved" and have everlasting life?

@kingdavid403 said
You got nothing of the sort from my posts. Please share with us all where you got these lies? liar troll boy?

I think it's perfectly clear from the flow and back and forth of the conversation and from the content of our posts. It's all there for people to agree with or disagree with as they see fit.

@fmf said
If I lead my life under the influence of Jesus' teachings. If I do good works. If I strive to avoid immorality and lead as righteous a life as I can, do you believe I will be "saved" and have everlasting life?

If I do good works. If I strive to avoid immorality and lead as righteous a life as I can, do you believe I will be "saved" and have everlasting life?
If you do this, it is clear that you have true faith. So yes.

@fmf said
I think it's perfectly clear from the flow and back and forth of the conversation and from the content of our posts. It's all there for people to agree with or disagree with as they see fit.

Well show us then liar troll boy? Don't just speak out of your worthless liars a$$. Don't be a liars wimp.

@kingdavid403 said

If I lead my life under the influence of Jesus' teachings.

If I do good works.

If I strive to avoid immorality and lead as righteous a life as I can,

do you believe I will be "saved" and have everlasting life?

KingDavid403: If you do this, it is clear that you have true faith. So yes.

Even though I am an atheist?

@kingdavid403 said
Well show us then liar troll boy? Don't just speak out of your worthless liars a$$.

People can agree or disagree with my analysis if they want to. I don't see the need to type the same points all over again. It's all still there. If, as you suggest, I am a "liar", then people can see that for themselves.