18 Jul 20
@fmf saidSo you only believe some of what Jesus said and taught. The rest is a lie to you liar boy?
I don't have any credible reason to believe that there is any such thing as everlasting life. I am an atheist. However, I do believe that much of what Jesus is said to have taught while he was alive makes for a morally sound way to lead one's life.
18 Jul 20
@kingdavid403 saidI am not asking you to add or take away from something you posted earlier in this thread. I am asking if you want to modify the "slogan" in the OP, as the OP asked you to do.
My statement speaks for itself liar troll boy. No need for your adding or taking away from it.
18 Jul 20
@kingdavid403 saidI am not a Christian. I don't think Jesus was a divine being or God or supernatural in any way. So, while I think that much of what Jesus is said to have taught is very morally sound and a good template for a life well-lived, I don't subscribe to what Christians claim about the significance of his Jesus' life on the supernatural level.
So you only believe some of what Jesus said and taught. The rest is a lie to you liar boy?
18 Jul 20
@kingdavid403 saidIt's an answer to the personal questions you asked me.
Sounds like a personal matter to me liar troll boy.
18 Jul 20
@fmf saidI think I stated my thoughts on the OP. If not, I'm stating here that I think it is a good saying.
I am not asking you to add or take away from something you posted earlier in this thread. I am asking if you want to modify the "slogan" in the OP, as the OP asked you to do.
18 Jul 20
@kingdavid403 saidFMF: If I do good works. If I strive to avoid immorality and lead as righteous a life as I can, do you believe I will be "saved" and have everlasting life?
KingDavid403: If you do this, it is clear that you have true faith. So yes.
Even though I myself do not believe in everlasting life?
18 Jul 20
@kingdavid403 saidHave you been what you believe is "Christ-like" here over the last few hours?
@FMF
Have fun on you hamster wheel liar boy. Nite...
18 Jul 20
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@fmf saidYep.
Have you been what you believe is "Christ-like" here over the last few hours?
Ever see the things Jesus said to the pharisees and Religious leaders of that day?
I was light on you compared to the way Jesus treated those liars.
Nite liar boy...
18 Jul 20
@kingdavid403 saidBut I am not a "liar". We simply have different beliefs. And I simply have a different perspective on what you have been saying here than you do. I have not been "lying" about anything.
Yep.
Ever see the things Jesus said to the pharisees and Religious leaders of that day?
I was light on you compared to the way Jesus treated those liars.
18 Jul 20
@kingdavid403 said@kingdavid403 said, page after page...
@FMF
Have fun on you hamster wheel liar boy. Nite...
Yes, you troll often; I already know that.
Please show us all where I extracted this from the Gospels of Jesus liar boy?
Where do I seem to be stretching hard for a populist, liar troll boy?
Please show us ALL where I said, or did this, liar troll boy? LOL...
As I already said; you already lost liar boy. lol...
No, that's your liar's pitch, not a strike either liar boy.
lol... You're still losing liar troll boy (you already lost)..,
Please share with us all where you got these lies? liar troll boy?
Well show us then liar troll boy?
Don't just speak out of your worthless liars a$$.
Don't be a liars wimp.
You have no points. Only lies liar boy. Nite liar boy. lol...
Why would you believe in everlasting life liar boy?
LOL... You digging a fairly deep hole for yourself liar boy. lol...
My statement above speaks for itself liar troll boy.
For everlasting life (salvation) liar boy? lol...
My statement speaks for itself liar troll boy.
Sounds like a personal matter to me liar troll boy.
The rest is a lie to you liar boy?
Have fun on you hamster wheel liar boy. Nite...
Nite liar boy...
You seem to be trying to turn this forum into the kind of place that Philokalia apparently wants it to be.
18 Jul 20
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@fmf saidYou are lying and twisting the words of my stance on this issue. Nothing about different beliefs; just your lies. You have been lying about everything.
But I am not a "liar". We simply have different beliefs. And I simply have a different perspective on what you have been saying here than you do. I have not been "lying" about anything.
Now, you just said you had belief in the teachings and commandments of Jesus to live a good life; even as an Atheist. So how is it that you do not believe in Christ, when you state that you believe in His teachings to live a good life?
Do you have good works without faith, which is dead works and dead faith.
Or, do you have faith in Jesus teachings to live a good life, but think He lied about salvation in Him and that He is God in the flesh?
Why do you believe some of His teachings and not others? Was He half liar?
18 Jul 20
@fmf saidHow about this:
Those here who talk about their belief that God created them often seem to be saying more or less this:
"God created you in order that you believe in him and worship him and if you do, you will have everlasting life".
At the bare bones level, is there more to God's perceived purpose than that?
"God created you in order that you believe in him and worship him and to obey him and do good works ~ unless you are on your deathbed and so can only do the first two things in the time left ~ and if you do, you will have everlasting life".
Too much text for a t-shirt, but ~ and this question is for Christians ~ is it CORRECT?