Good evil

@fmf said
I think it's to PettyTalk that you should be addressing this.

You said nobody has claimed we have the same motivations as other animals. I was disagreeing with that (in part). Our basic motivations are no different.

@pettytalk said
You are naturally asking questions and mandating answers, are you not? Through you, nature is wanting!

This is sophistry.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You said nobody has claimed we have the same motivations as other animals. I was disagreeing with that (in part). Our basic motivations are no different.

OK then, if so, we disagree. I hadn't used the words "basic motivations".

@pettytalk said
By providing such explanations you are lecturing, as you assume that I'm not aware of such earthly matters. But tell me, are you actually lecturing, or just summarizing information you were spoon-fed?

Thanks for the evasive "banter".

@fmf said
OK then, if so, we disagree. I hadn't used the words "basic motivations".

Separating our motivations from other animals is the slippery slope to feeling we are somehow special and perhaps created by a God.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
There is nothing supernatural about humans. We are just more highly evolved than other species.

We put meaning into what would be a meaningless world, we are self-aware just two examples that pure materialism cannot explain.

@kellyjay said
We put meaning into what would be a meaningless world, we are self-aware just two examples that pure materialism cannot explain.

No more than a giraffe. (And we actually do more damage).

@ghost-of-a-duke said
That might be where you are going wrong. (As you don't have a direct understanding of scripture). Sometimes it is good to listen to other Christians who had read the same scripture.

I do listen but an opinion even my own needs to line up with the scripture, as I pointed out I have to change my mind when what I think varies from it.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You seem to have missed out capital punishment.

It’s a reality in scripture.

@kellyjay said
It’s a reality in scripture.

As is God's indifference to abortion.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
No more than a giraffe. (And we actually do more damage).

Can a giraffe write out their own thoughts in a story?

@kellyjay said
I do listen but an opinion even my own needs to line up with the scripture, as I pointed out I have to change my mind when what I think varies from it.

Origen was a third century Church father. Why wouldn't his opinion line up with scripture?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
As is God's indifference to abortion.

Searching are we?

@kellyjay said
Can a giraffe write out their own thoughts in a story?

Not at this stage in their evolutionary journey. - Humans couldn't either, earlier on in their evolution.

@kellyjay said
Searching are we?

No need. Referenced it previously.