@fmf saidI was well aware of it because it wasn't as long ago that I "disappeared" as you think.
Since you disappeared from the forums and stopped playing chess four and a half years ago, all of us here heard the news - from one of his relatives - that Grampy Bobby had passed away after a long illness. You were perhaps unaware of this.
And I didn't disappear. I just stopped posting.
01 Jan 22
@josephw said"Confirmation bias" would be if I DIDN'T talk to Christians like you and ONLY [or mostly] talked to agnostic atheists like myself.
Frankly, I think you're confusing what I know with what you think I know.You think I believe what you think I believe.
Sounds a lot like the act of confirmation bias.
01 Jan 22
@fmf saidMaybe you are just talking to yourself, or may as well be, since every point I make is met with the rhetoric you repeatedly employ to ward off responding to those points.
"Confirmation bias" would be if I DIDN'T talk to Christians like you and ONLY [or mostly] talked to agnostic atheists like myself.
Like a kind of self induced confirmation bias. 😂
01 Jan 22
@fmf said
"Religion has served its purpose of uniting people, setting up structures in society, developing trust and cooperation."
~ Syed Saleem Ali
"What we need now are morality and spirituality. Morality is about reducing suffering in the world. And spirituality is about questioning and looking for answers. Religions provide us just with answers and no scope of questions.”
~ Y ...[text shortened]... uniting people, supporting structures in society, and developing trust and cooperation.
Thoughts?
Where I live, I'd say the six religions enshrined in the constitution still serve a purpose in uniting people, supporting structures in society, and developing trust and cooperation.
Yes.
So long as that is all they do.
As soon as one religion seeks to convert, evangelicise, take the moral high ground and try to score points against other religions then the sickness begins.
Everybody should feel to practise his own religion - it is society’s favourite toy and it will remain so for a very long time. I’m perfectly happy for people to have these toys and to play with them at home, but don’t to say my children that they must play with these toys. (Apologies to Christopher Hitchens for misquoting him)
@fmf saidWell, purposes require intents; if the only ones we concern ourselves are our own, then there are millions of different reasons for religion, some successful others not. If we take in God, all purposes are going as planned.
"Religion has served its purpose of uniting people, setting up structures in society, developing trust and cooperation."
~ Syed Saleem Ali
"What we need now are morality and spirituality. Morality is about reducing suffering in the world. And spirituality is about questioning and looking for answers. Religions provide us just with answers and no scope of questions.”
~ Y ...[text shortened]... uniting people, supporting structures in society, and developing trust and cooperation.
Thoughts?
@kellyjay saidThe OP is not specifically about your God figure, it should perhaps be noted. It's about religions and societies in general.
Well, purposes require intents; if the only ones we concern ourselves are our own, then there are millions of different reasons for religion, some successful others not. If we take in God, all purposes are going as planned.
@kellyjay saidLet's reiterate the societal context of the "purpose" referred to in the OP, which had someone asserting this: ""Religion has served its purpose of uniting people, setting up structures in society, developing trust and cooperation."
Well, purposes require intents; if the only ones we concern ourselves are our own, then there are millions of different reasons for religion
In this context, are you suggesting that there are "millions of different reasons" why a society would adopt a religion?
01 Jan 22
@josephw saidThat’s because either you aren’t here enough to engage with the wider community of this forum, or you are dishonestly pretending that you don’t know that “public masturbation” is suzianne’s latest buzz phrase for smearing her detractors .
Sorry, but I am clueless as to what you mean by the above.
Believe it or not I am guileless. Even though it may "appear" otherwise.
01 Jan 22
@josephw saidIt’s not a question of “logic” and even if it were you lack the intellectual tools to create a logic framework within which you could articulate your ideas.
No. "Religion" is the effort of man based on man's performance.
Your logic is flawed. If God were "controlling", then there would be no need for "religion".
No, you are a typical dyed-in-the-wool, smalltown right-wing American church goer.