07 Aug 10
Originally posted by FabianFnasYou have a complete right to your opinions Fab but that's all this is, your opinion. Ones with spiritual insight know Revelatons is very much alive with important information that is very current and important today and in the near future.
The book of Revelations is just a bunch of hallucinations written down. JW is based of the book of revelations. Conclusions?
If the same kind of visions would be written down today, the author would end up in a mental hospital, or in a religious cult.
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by karoly aczelThanks..I like just about everyone here and I also wish the debates would not get personal as one here in particular does. It's not you though. And I'm trying to work hard on not doing that either...
Its not that I dont like G75, its just that I dont like his "debating" style. Its frustrating and is indicative of the way JWs "debate" in general-at least the ones I've come across.
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by Rajk999Well. Can you find one comment or passage by anyone, before Jesus was on earth, that they said they were going to heaven after they died?
Well thats interesting ....
The Oldies did not know so therefore they cant be rewarded.
Those after Christ knew, therefore they will be rewarded.
Its all about knowing about the 144,000?
How did you arrive at the conclusion that the older generations of Israel did not know and how do you know that if they dont know then they cannot benefit from that reward?
But yes they do derserve a reward by all means. That would be, first a resurrection to life again, and then the chance to live forever on a paradise earth, the way God had intended.
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by galveston75So its about what one says.
Well. Can you find one comment or passage by anyone, before Jesus was on earth, that they said they were going to heaven after they died?
But yes they do derserve a reward by all means. That would be, first a resurrection to life again, and then the chance to live forever on a paradise earth, the way God had intended.
The JWs say they are part of the 144,000... therefore they are.
Abraham did not say he was part of the 144,000 .. therefore he is not part.
Gotcha !!!
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by galveston75And that is your opinion, and that's all what it is. You have the same right to your opinion as any one has right to theirs.
You have a complete right to your opinions Fab but that's all this is, your opinion. Ones with spiritual insight know Revelatons is very much alive with important information that is very current and important today and in the near future.
JW has foreseen the end of the world many times, even set an exact date, and guess what, they have always been wrong. The last day is always one day nearer of today, than it was yesterday, and that it how it will going to be all days until the sun goes nova.
If you read the revelation once, and read Nostradamus once, then you see that it is written very much alike. None of them are true, but they can be interpreted any way you like. The truths found in them both is heavily dependant of wild interpretations. You stand behind these wild interpretations because you so very well want it to be true.
As I say, it's your opinion, nothing more.
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by Rajk999You must lay awake at night trying to find ways to twist words don't you. Doesn't work here buddy. Lol.
So its about what one says.
The JWs say they are part of the 144,000... therefore they are.
Abraham did not say he was part of the 144,000 .. therefore he is not part.
Gotcha !!!
07 Aug 10
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Originally posted by FabianFnasThen we'll agree to disagree. 🙂
And that is your opinion, and that's all what it is. You have the same right to your opinion as any one has right to theirs.
JW has foreseen the end of the world many times, even set an exact date, and guess what, they have always been wrong. The last day is always one day nearer of today, than it was yesterday, and that it how it will going to be all ...[text shortened]... ons because you so very well want it to be true.
As I say, it's your opinion, nothing more.
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by galveston75Here are your words:
You must lay awake at night trying to find ways to twist words don't you. Doesn't work here buddy. Lol.
<<< Well. Can you find one comment or passage by anyone, before Jesus was on earth, that they said they were going to heaven after they died?
But yes they do derserve a reward by all means. That would be, first a resurrection to life again, and then the chance to live forever on a paradise earth, the way God had intended.>>>
You are saying that nobody said that they were going to heaven therefore they are not, and they will be living on the earthly paradise.
So according to you its all about what the old patrichs said.
What have I twisted?
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by Rajk999Rajj you are a master at word play and I'm tired of dealing with it. You'd make an awesome used car salesman.
Here are your words:
<<< Well. Can you find one comment or passage by anyone, before Jesus was on earth, that they said they were going to heaven after they died?
But yes they do derserve a reward by all means. That would be, first a resurrection to life again, and then the chance to live forever on a paradise earth, the way God had intended.>>>
You ...[text shortened]... aradise.
So according to you its all about what the old patrichs said.
What have I twisted?
07 Aug 10
Originally posted by galveston75Thats what we call a 'cop out' here.
Rajj you are a master at word play and I'm tired of dealing with it. You'd make an awesome used car salesman.
Please explain what you meant then so that I and any other 5 year old can understand what you said. Thanks.
Otherwise you are the one playing with words.