Originally posted by KellyJay"Nope"? So your ideology is that people with different beliefs from you ~ i.e. non-Christians ~ may well not end up being tortured for eternity as a punishment?
Nope, I believe I was very plain when I said sin was why anyone was
going to go to Hell. I believe there are going to be people with many of
the exact same beliefs I have go to Hell, because they refuse Jesus
Christ, but it will be due to their sins that make them guilty.
Originally posted by KellyJayAre you spiritually prepared to be tortured for eternity as a punishment for your sins ~ just in case ~ if that is what Jesus believes is justice for you?
If you think another can save you besides Jesus Christ, trust him, her,
or it...whatever. I believe in the end the truth will set us free or condemn
us depending on what is required.
Originally posted by FMFI believe if you end up in Hell it is forever, and everyone runs the risk of
"Nope"? So your ideology is that people with different beliefs from you ~ i.e. non-Christians ~ may well not end up being tortured for eternity as a punishment?
being there, due to sin. Those that agree with my beliefs, and those that
do not, which is to say EVERYONE who sins.
Kelly
Originally posted by FMFI'm here to play chess.
[b]Believe it or not, I don't read a lot of post started by other Christians
here! I will from time to time jump in if the title interests me, and I may
pray that God uses them to reach the lost, but unlike the unbelievers
here who feel the need to destroy their points, I don't feel the need to
add too or take away. If I disagree with them, I normally ignore ...[text shortened]... /b]
So if you are not here to engage fellow Christians, who is it you seek to engage and why?
If I pop on here it is because I want to.
Kelly
FMF: Are you spiritually prepared to be tortured for eternity as a punishment for your sins ~ just in case ~ if that is what Jesus believes is justice for you?Will you still love Jesus if that's what He decides for you?
Originally posted by KellyJay
If Jesus says that, it will not really matter what I think.
Originally posted by KellyJaySo, you think some Christians will NOT be tortured for eternity as a punishment for their sins ~ and some Christians WILL be tortured for eternity for their sins along with ALL non-Christians? Have I understood you correctly?
I believe if you end up in Hell it is forever, and everyone runs the risk of
being there, due to sin. Those that agree with my beliefs, and those that
do not, which is to say EVERYONE who sins.
Originally posted by FMFI'm not going to repeat myself any more with you, I've answered this
So, you think some Christians will NOT be tortured for eternity as a punishment for their sins ~ and some Christians WILL be tortured for eternity for their sins along with ALL non-Christians? Have I understood you correctly?
over and over. If you cannot grasp the answer, I cannot say it any more
clearer.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayYes I know, but my question was... will you still love Jesus ~ for eternity ~ if He decides you should be tortured for eternity as a punishment for your sins?
I love Jesus, He died for me, I lay my life in His hands. His will be done,
I know I deserve Hell, my only hope is Christ.
Originally posted by KellyJayThe reason I am trying to pin you down on an explicit answer is because, to me, you are clearly equivocating. Never mind.
I'm not going to repeat myself any more with you, I've answered this
over and over. If you cannot grasp the answer, I cannot say it any more
clearer.
One of the Christians on this forum told me that I am already saved because I used to be a Christian and I am saved even though I am no longer a believer in Christ. Do you concur with that?
Originally posted by FMFWe had that conversation before, you know my answer.
The reason I am trying to pin you down on an explicit answer is because, to me, you are clearly equivocating. Never mind.
One of the Christians on this forum told me that I am already saved because I used to be a Christian and I am saved even though I am no longer a believer in Christ. Do you concur with that?
No.
For many reasons, I doubt you ever knew Him.
If you did and you thought Him unworthy to where you walked away,
than you walked away.
Kelly
Originally posted by KellyJayWell, as you know, according to your reasoning, we also do not yet know whether you are a Christian and whether you actually "know" Him. I wish upon you the same sense of fulfilment and awakening that I experienced as a result of my decision, but if you get something similar by continuing to profess to be a Christian and if it helps you to come to terms with the inevitability of death, then I wish you well on your spiritual path instead. 🙂
We had that conversation before, you know my answer.
No.
For many reasons, I doubt you ever knew Him.
If you did and you thought Him unworthy to where you walked away,
than you walked away.
Originally posted by FMFAnyone can profess to be a Christian, they can profess to be a hamburger
Well, as you know, according to your reasoning, we also do not [b]yet know whether you are a Christian and whether you actually "know" Him. I wish upon you the same sense of fulfilment and awakening that I experienced as a result of my decision, but if you get something similar by continuing to profess to be a Christian and if it helps you to come to terms with the inevitability of death, then I wish you well on your spiritual path instead. 🙂[/b]
too and even live at BurgerKing, but going to or living at BurgerKing
does not make anyone a hamburger any more than just going to church
makes anyone a Christian as the old saying goes. Jesus knows His own,
God gives the Holy Spirit to those that belong to Him. You can blow off
all I say, up to you no skin off my nose, the only one you have to worry
about is Jesus Christ, and since you professed you knew Him and He
wasn't what you thought was worthy of your devotion, than who am I
that you would care one wit what I think?
Kelly