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Originally posted by Rajk999Like I said, it takes study. I am not in a position to teach on a forum. It is not one verse, but many verses studied in unison coupled with context and previous usage. I would copy and paste a sermon but I know how you detest copy and paste, so I am sorry, I can't help you.
Where does the bible say that
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by checkbaiterPost the proof
Like I said, it takes study. I am not in a position to teach on a forum. It is not one verse, but many verses studied in unison coupled with context and previous usage. I would copy and paste a sermon but I know how you detest copy and paste, so I am sorry, I can't help you.
Originally posted by Rajk999You're such a dunderhead Rajk. Read it and weep as the saying goes!
Clearly you cannot produce a reference either
Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Are you happy now?
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by googlefudgeDifferent topic, as near as I can recall all this thread had to do with as can we be civil to
Your post is dealing with a question of 'how' one might post without being 'offensive, disrespectful etc'
But doesn't deal with 'why' I/anyone should be respectful to people, and towards posts, who/that tell
me that I deserve to be murdered/tortured?
I have never had any satisfactory answer to that question.
one another while we debate for a month, and I'm a little disappointed that even that
alone is a point of contention.
If you wish to talk about Hell and Heaven those are other topics, not sure how they
are part of this in your mind.
15 Jul 15
Over the years, I have endeavored to be civil in all my interactions on here. From time to time I have failed. The failures are mine and mine alone. Of course, even when civil, my views have been not really respectful of the views of some others - they could not be. And vice versa. Whenever I post, I will endeavor to be civil - and to truly wish the other well as a person. Whatever month it may be.
Originally posted by josephwYou're such a dunderhead Rajk. Read it and weep as the saying goes!
You're such a dunderhead Rajk. Read it and weep as the saying goes!
Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a [b]peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth ...[text shortened]... ises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Are you happy now?[/b]
Says the guy who posted the following on page 1 of this thread
The idea here and in the thread started by Kelly Jay is to bring about a coalition of posters that are weary of the negative effects of ad hominem attacks in this forum, by any and all, and to substitute a more thoughtfully respectful and positive objectivity to these boards.
Attack the idea or thought with all the objective vehemence you can muster, but keep you hands off the poster!
Can it be that difficult?
Do you think you got the thumbs up for already failing to live up to the spirit of your post or for getting confused about what Rajk999 was for?
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by KellyJayAs I said to josephw (who I think shares this view) I would basically agree with this. Which is why my posts can be quite severe in terms of my criticism of certain beliefs, but I avoid linking this directly to the individual who may support them.
Then in my opinion at least, if you direct your statement at someone you've insulted them
be it directly or not. As I said we can go after ideas, but to tie them to someone as you
insult the idea would be just like calling them a name directly.
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by josephwYou are a comedian
You're such a dunderhead Rajk. Read it and weep as the saying goes!
Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a [b]peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth ...[text shortened]... ises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Are you happy now?[/b]
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by josephwCheckbaiter said:
You're such a dunderhead Rajk. Read it and weep as the saying goes!
Titus 2:14
Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a [b]peculiar people, zealous of good works.
1 Peter 2:9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth ...[text shortened]... ises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Are you happy now?[/b]
I don't know much about you, but if it makes you feel any better, what the bible really says is that we all deserve to burn in hell.
Then I said this:
The bible says no such thing.
This is what I am asking him to provide a reference for, in case you missed it.
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Originally posted by vistesdI have to say vistesd that you are a model of civility, and you have more that your share of diplomatic skills and patience.
Over the years, I have endeavored to be civil in all my interactions on here. From time to time I have failed. The failures are mine and mine alone. Of course, even when civil, my views have been not really respectful of the views of some others - they could not be. And vice versa. Whenever I post, I will endeavor to be civil - and to truly wish the other well as a person. Whatever month it may be.
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Originally posted by Rajk999Rom 5:12
Checkbaiter said:
I don't know much about you, but if it makes you feel any better, what the bible really says is that we all deserve to burn in hell.
Then I said this:
The bible says no such thing.
This is what I am asking him to provide a reference for, in case you missed it.
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned —
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Rom 5:18-19
Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man's obedience many will be made righteous.
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Rom 3:10-20
As it is written:
"There is none righteous, no, not one;
11 There is none who understands;
There is none who seeks after God.
12 They have all turned aside;
They have together become unprofitable;
There is none who does good, no, not one."
13 "Their throat is an open tomb;
With their tongues they have practiced deceit";
"The poison of asps is under their lips";
14 "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness."
15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways;
17 And the way of peace they have not known."
18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
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Rom 3:22-24
For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
NKJV
15 Jul 15
Originally posted by checkbaiterIm fully aware of all those passages, however Im still waiting for you to produce a reference which supports your statement that "we all deserve to burn in hell".
Rom 5:12
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned —
NKJV
Rom 5:18-19
Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justi ...[text shortened]... 4
For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
NKJV