Incomes relative to Religions in USA.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
a lot to answerer for, really,

In June 2012, a California court ordered the Watch Tower Society to pay more than
US$20 million in compensation and punitive damages to a woman who, as a child,
was allegedly abused by a member. The court found that congregation elders,
following the policies of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, contribu ...[text shortened]... should stop reading
sensationalistic journalism, read FMF instead, its just as good.

Your quoting what the Watchtowers attorney said, of course he/she is going to say that the Watchtower's 'reprehensibility is "very low" if any'. 🙄

The fact of the matter remains your organisation has been found guilty and ordered to cough up $10 million.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not affected in any way, call it what you will, unless you walk the walk you cannot talk the talk.

Your door-to-door stuff is 'talk the talk' and little else. It is the absolute antithesis of 'walk the walk' to my way of thinking. But I am sure it makes you feel important. I don't see what it has to do with "materialism" at all.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No a body of elders was found guilty of not disclosing an admission of guilt by a
perpetrator to other parents, this while serious, its not the case anymore, is it. Again
how many cases have we covered up.

I don't know the exact number, how would i?? 🙄

Your organisations prior policy with regard to secrecy concerning sex offenders within their congregations has been found unlawful in a court of law. If you think that this girl is the only victim of this policy then you are more deluded than i think you are already.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I don't know the exact number, how would i?? 🙄

Your organisations prior policy with regard to secrecy concerning sex offenders within their congregations has been found unlawful in a court of law. If you think that this girl is the only victim of this policy then you are more deluded than i think you are already.

I see, so you have absolutely no idea and have no way of knowing anything in this
regard other than to state that it may be a reason why the figures for sexual abuse are
so low, despite having not the slightest piece of empirical evidence to back up such a
claim, Neeeext! Prior policy, thankyou, again another neeeext! If you have any
empirical evidence let it be known otherwise its useless to speculate.

Did you know we are moving our headquarters, i read an article on an atheist page
about the frozen assets, i had to laugh when it stated that it will send witnesses into
Armageddon mode.

Originally posted by FMF
Your door-to-door stuff is 'talk the talk' and little else. It is the absolute antithesis of 'walk the walk' to my way of thinking. But I am sure it makes you feel important. I don't see what it has to do with "materialism" at all.

but wait FMF, you like to cite the Bible as a reference for Christianity, what does the
Bible state with regard to the house to house ministry?? self important, little more than
talk the talk, please elaborate.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
we are not interested in impressing you, if you want to be impressed, go and see Titian work of art.

Titian was crap. I much perfer real living art where people of the 'white cloth', god lovers and carers ,and pinions of their society feck up, and start to tell godly lies, and end up getting caught! So much more real than a Titian piece of ancient culture, as the godly figures are real - so real. It's so cool to watch..... not as good a max headroom, but not far off it! 😉

-m.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Your quoting what the Watchtowers attorney said, of course he/she is going to say that the Watchtower's 'reprehensibility is "very low" if any'. 🙄

The fact of the matter remains your organisation has been found guilty and ordered to cough up $10 million.

The court ruled that it was medium, 10 million is a small price to pay to root out paedophiles.

Originally posted by mikelom
Titian was crap. I much perfer real living art where people of the 'white cloth', god lovers and carers ,and pinions of their society feck up, and start to tell godly lies, and end up getting caught! So much more real than a Titian piece of ancient culture, as the godly figures are real - so real. It's so cool to watch..... not as good a max headroom, but not far off it! 😉

-m.

You are either drunk or simply full of it, what is 'crap', about Titian?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
but wait FMF, you like to cite the Bible as a reference for Christianity, what does the
Bible state with regard to the house to house ministry?? self important, little more than
talk the talk, please elaborate.

You can interpret it how you like. It's just talk.

If what you bring to people's doorsteps is in any way remotely like the stuff you say and the demeanour you exhibit on this forum, I would say - certainly according to my terms of reference - you are living a lie, robbie, if you think that the brand of "spirituality" you peddle is walking-any-walk of significance. But if it makes you feel good about yourself and makes you feel like you are really engaged in something of consequence, then good for you. But to me it's all about "psychology" and not "materialism".

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I see, so you have absolutely no idea and have no way of knowing anything in this
regard other than to state that it may be a reason why the figures for sexual abuse are
so low, despite having not the slightest piece of empirical evidence to back up such a
claim, Neeeext! Prior policy, thankyou, again another neeeext! If you have any
empiri ...[text shortened]... frozen assets, i had to laugh when it stated that it will send witnesses into
Armageddon mode.

I call it inferring Rob.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I call it inferring Rob.

inferring? LOL, i see, i would say it falls more into the category of unfounded
speculation and vile insinuation.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
inferring? LOL, i see, i would say it falls more into the category of unfounded
speculation and vile insinuation.

Unfounded speculation? Your organisation has just lost a multi-million dollar law suit with regard to it's procedures pertaining to how it deals with child abuse allegations. The systems in place failed this young girl dramatically, it's only because of her bravery in deciding to take this matter to court and not settle for an out of court settlement that this has been brought to light. If you think that this is the only child who has been failed by your organisations policy towards child abuse then you are living in a fantasy land..............wait, i know you are already.

Originally posted by Proper Knob
Unfounded speculation? Your organisation has just lost a multi-million dollar law suit with regard to it's procedures pertaining to how it deals with child abuse allegations. The systems in place failed this young girl dramatically, it's only because of her bravery in deciding to take this matter to court and not settle for an out of court settlement tha ...[text shortened]... s child abuse then you are living in a fantasy land..............wait, i know you are already.

yes indeed, you were asked for evidence, you provided nada, why, because you have none, aint that the truth and until you can, all you have is unfounded speculations and insinuations. We got 4.6 million Euros coming from the French government who decided to tax our donations and no one else, pity for them. A handful of cases in the last one hundred years compared to the thousands in Catholicism and the hundreds in protestant denominations, i think we are doing very well in protecting our young people from unscrupulous people, to be honest, an isolated case hardly has any bearing on this, regrettable though it is.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
You are either drunk or simply full of it, what is 'crap', about Titian?

Well it's not crap, I guess. It's just that most 'elementary' kids could pain that good! 😀

-m. 😉

And the can certainly paint better than Van Deaf! 😛 .. If I was that crap, I'd have cut off worse than my ear matey! 😏

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yes indeed, you were asked for evidence, you provided nada, why, because you have none, aint that the truth and until you can, all you have is unfounded speculations and insinuations. We got 4.6 million Euros coming from the French government who decided to tax our donations and no one else, pity for them.

4.6 million euros eh, put that in the kitty towards the law suit the Watchtower just lost.