@sonship saidEveryone interested in meeting Jesus Christ should take the advice of Jesus Christ:
Everyone reading this post should be confessing their sins and believing and serving the Lord Jesus in preparation to possibly meet Him even in this lifetime. Eventually we will all stand before Him one way or another.
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. (John 15:10 KJV)
.. If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. (John 14:23 KJV)
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@sonship saidThe bible says otherwise. The righteous are raised for eternal life and the wicked are raised to be punished. Most people from Adam to the end of the age, will fall in this category of never seeing the light again as described in the Psalms and other passages in Solomon's writings..
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Everyone will meet the Son of God whether they are interested or not interested.
And He died and rose for everyone whether they are interested or not interested.
He did so because He knew everyone has a personal rendezvous with absolutely righteous and holy God.
Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish. This their way is their folly: yet their posterity approve their sayings. ... For when he dieth he shall carry nothing away: his glory shall not descend after him. ...... He shall go to the generation of his fathers; they shall never see light. Man that is in honour, and understandeth not, is like the beasts that perish. (Psalms 49:12-20 KJV)
Maybe you think all animals will also be raised and judged as well. Your doctrine of the immortal soul and eternal torment for all people who are not Christians is unbiblical church nonsense.
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In a post I said that we all will meet Christ whether we are interested or not.
Rajk999 comes after me and says the Bible says otherwise.
Actually it does not say otherwise. Rather it says "That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, And every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." ( Phil. 2:10,11)
This is reiterating what we are told in by Jehovah God before the incarnation, before the Word became flesh in Jesus Christ.
"I have sworn by Myself; A word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness and will not return, That every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall swear,
It shall be said of Me, Only in Jehovah is there righteousness and strength.
To Him shall men come, and all those who are burning in anger against Him shall be ashamed." (Isaiah 45:23,24)
You decide whether you want to believe Rajk999 or the word of God.
@sonship saidPeople like you should not be preaching. First learn to read. The Phillipians passage says SHOULD Go check the meaning of the word. Do you think the Devil and his angels will bow to Jesus Christ or God?
In a post I said that we all will meet Christ whether we are interested or not.
Rajk999 comes after me and says the Bible says otherwise.
Actually it does not say otherwise. Rather it says "That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, And every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glor ...[text shortened]... med." (Isaiah 45:23,24)
You decide whether you want to believe Rajk999 or the word of God.
As for your Isaiah passage had you bothered to read the context you will see that it refers to God speaking to the Jews, calling them back home and bringing them back from all over the world where they will worship Him, and kneel before Him.
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People like you should not be preaching. First learn to read. The Phillipians passage says SHOULD Go check the meaning of the word. Do you think the Devil and his angels will bow to Jesus Christ or God?
It says in Philippians - " . . . every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, . . ." (2:10) .
So I think it probably means all created sentient life human or angelic.
Whether they bow willingly with joy or grudgingly in unconditional surrender, all
will bow.
Do you entertain some other hope?
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As for your Isaiah passage had you bothered to read the context you will see that it refers to God speaking to the Jews, calling them back home and bringing them back from all over the world where they will worship Him, and kneel before Him.
Actually, the context is "all the ends of the earth" meaning the entire human race on the planet.
Verse 22 - "Turn to Me and be saved, All the ends of the earth, For I am God and there is no one else."
Verse 23 - ". . . every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall swear. . . . "
Are you hoping that the bad angels and demons will come before God with anger yet NOT be ashamed?
I believe that the context of the ENTIRE Bible is that they will be ashamed even in their age old ancient anger, along with any angry rebellious humans.
" . . . And all those who are burning in anger against Him shall be ashamed."
Ephesians says that God has exalted Christ "Far above all rule and authority and power and lordship and every name that is named not only in this age but also in that which is to come." (Eph. 1:21)
That is universal headship over everyone and everything . . . "all rule and authority and power and lordship and every name . . . "
"And He subjected all things under His feet and gave Him to be Head over all things to the church, which is His Body, the fullness of the One who fills all in all." (v.22,23)
His universal authority is transmitted from Himself as the Head to "the church, which is His Body.".
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Your doctrine of the immortal soul and eternal torment for all people who are not Christians is unbiblical church nonsense.
You still are very influenced by Jehovah's Witness teaching manuals. I never put forth a "doctrine of immortal soul". That is a Greek philosophical concept.
One day we may unravel the puzzle of your influence by the Watchtower teaching material.
Both annihilationism, denying the Deity of Christ, arguing against the Trinity, your hatred for the very word "church" and "churches", are all stock teachings of the Watchtower Bible Society.
I know you studied with them somewhere back there.
I surmise you were disfellowshipped or left because of leadership squabbles or maybe something else.
I would bet on finding JW material in your room if I could be there right now. Couldn't I ? You ought to burn those things.
Maybe you only get along with one other Bible student - YOURSELF.
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The Bible says that the saints [believers] will "judge angels." Now if the saints of God are to judge angels do you think bad angels are not going to bow to Jesus the Son of God?
How are they going to be subject to the saints but NOT to the Triune God ?
"Do you not know that we will judge angels, not to mention things of this life? " (1 Cor. 6:3)
Let's see how Rajk999 explains how judged evil angels are subject to Christians yet are not going to bow to the Son of God.
@rajk999 saidMaybe you think all animals will also be raised and judged as well.
The bible says otherwise. The righteous are raised for eternal life and the wicked are raised to be punished. Most people from Adam to the end of the age, will fall in this category of never seeing the light again as described in the Psalms and other passages in Solomon's writings..
[i]Nevertheless man being in honour abideth not: he is like the beasts that perish. ...[text shortened]... mortal soul and eternal torment for all people who are not Christians is unbiblical church nonsense.
According to several scriptures, there are animals in heaven; as they were in the Garden of Eden. Heaven would not be heaven without my cats and dogs. 🙂
@kingdavid403 saidI've never noticed one about animals KD, please share.
Maybe you think all animals will also be raised and judged as well.
According to several scriptures, there are animals in heaven; as they were in the Garden of Eden. Heaven would not be heaven without my cats and dogs. 🙂
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@medullah saidI've never noticed one about animals KD, please share.
I've never noticed one about animals KD, please share.
[Isaiah 11:6-9 NKJV] 6 "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, The leopard shall lie down with the young goat, The calf and the young lion and the fatling together; And a little child shall lead them. 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; Their young ones shall lie down together; And the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 The nursing child shall play by the cobra's hole, And the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper's den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD As the waters cover the sea."
[Isaiah 65:25 NKJV] 25 "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, The lion shall eat straw like the ox, And dust [shall be] the serpent's food. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain," Says the LORD."
Etc.
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I agree that it applies to the Earth; why do we think that this verses apply to heaven?
It's a nice passage and something to look forward to. Thanks for sharing .