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@fmf said
You haven't explained how I have supposedly "blamed" him or "abandoned" him.

Check the edit.

@fmf said
The "same delusion"? How so? How is it "the same"?

You say Suzianne is delusional for believing she encountered an angel and Dive is delusional for believing in angels. How are these any different? Both believe angels exist and therefore encountering one is a possibility. Neither have described meeting an angel that appeared in any way supernatural or with wings etc.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I have said I don't agree with those claims.

Here they are again:

1. divegeester is bribing Russ to delete accounts because those account users disagreed with him

2. I have deleted hundreds of subscribers' accounts because I am a secret mod and those subscribers disagreed with me

If she believes they are both true, then I would describe them as delusional claims.

The other possibility is that she simply made them up in order to have some kind of banter or 'line of attack'.

If she thinks these claims sound credible as 'lines of attack' and that sensible people will believe her, then I think she is ~ again ~ being delusional.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
You say Suzianne is delusional for believing she encountered an angel and Dive is delusional for believing in angels. How are these any different?

For the reason that I gave when it came upon before.

@fmf said
For the reason that I gave when it came upon before.

The two are inseparable.

Dave believes in ghosts. Fred also believes in ghosts and believes he once encountered one. Is Fred more deluded than Dave?

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Both believe angels exist and therefore encountering one is a possibility. Neither have described meeting an angel that appeared in any way supernatural or with wings etc.

Another example would be if they both believe that Jesus Christ is still alive. Speaking as an atheist, I find that belief to be a delusion. If divegeester claimed that Jesus had come into his bedroom, sat on his bed, and talked to him, then I would find that even more delusional than simply having faith in Jesus "as the living saviour".

@ghost-of-a-duke said
The two are inseparable.

The two are interconnected but are delusions on different levels. I think you already accepted this, perhaps a bit inadvertently.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Dave believes in ghosts. Fred also believes in ghosts and believes he once encountered one. Is Fred more deluded than Dave?

To me, yes.

@fmf said
The two are interconnected but are delusions on different levels.

I disagree.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I disagree.

I think you already accepted this, perhaps a bit inadvertently.

@fmf said
To me, yes.

But Dave has the same belief in ghosts and could just as easily misconstrue something to confirm his already held belief.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
Check the edit.

You haven't explained how I have "blamed" or "abandoned" him.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
But Dave has the same belief in ghosts and could just as easily misconstrue something to confirm his already held belief.

If Dave claimed he had actually interacted with a ghost, I'd find that more deluded than him simply having a general belief that ghosts exist.

@fmf said
I think you already accepted this, perhaps a bit inadvertently.

Delusions can certainly intensify but that is not what we are discussing here. Both Dive and Suzianne share the same belief that angels exist.

@fmf said
You haven't explained how I have "blamed" or "abandoned" him.

Yes I have:

You initially called Suzianne delusional but then in a weakened position abandoned Dive to the same delusion.