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Jesus Lied . For The Bible Tells Me So .

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
No, that's the irony. I don't think you are at all delusional for holding the beliefs you do. It is you (and FMF) who thinks you might be delusional.
As a hard atheist you don’t think a belief in supernatural beings, miracles and the such like is delusional… This is your position?

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@divegeester said
Ghost of a duke?

Third time of asking
Already answered. Keep up.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
He did more than that. He labelled his beliefs delusional.
I haven’t “labelled” anything, I’ve recognised how the scientific community and atheists view theists, and I’ve acknowledged that based on that perspective if lost my faith I would look back on my time as believing in supernatural beings, miracles as the such as being delusional.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
He did more than that. He labelled his beliefs delusional.
Yes, in terms of being "deluded" as in believing something that is not true.

When he doubts his faith, he entertains the thought that his beliefs may pertain to things that are not true: i.e. delusions.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Already answered. Keep up.
Would you like to see the screen grab of the ludicrous explanation Suzianne gave of how the post was made by someone else during a physical struggle by her and a house guest to regain control of her laptop and how her thumb pressed a key and the post was made?

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@divegeester said
As a hard atheist you don’t think a belief in supernatural beings, miracles and the such like is delusional… This is your position?
It's not "delusional" from the point of view of a psychiatrist, although he equates me thinking that your beliefs in the supernatural are delusions with me questioning your sanity for some reason.

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@divegeester said
Would you like to see the screen grab of the ludicrous explanation Suzianne gave of how the post was made by someone else during a physical struggle by her and a house guest to regain control of her laptop and how her thumb pressed a key and the post was made?
You could send it to his local government e-mail address.

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@divegeester said
As a hard atheist you don’t think a belief in supernatural beings, miracles and the such like is delusional… This is your position?
I think you are incorrect to believe such things. I think it is born from a desire to have answers to all the big questions of where we came from, to make the world a less scary place. I don't think delusional is helpful in this context, though other atheists may consider you as being self deluded. Faith, I think, has to be factored into the equation.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
I think you are incorrect to believe such things. I think it is born from a desire to have answers to all the big questions of where we came from, to make the world a less scary place. I don't think delusional is helpful in this context, though other atheists may consider you as being self deluded. Faith, I think, has to be factored into the equation.
Do you think a sincere belief in fairies at the bottom of one’s garden is delusional?

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@divegeester said
I haven’t “labelled” anything, I’ve recognised how the scientific community and atheists view theists, and I’ve acknowledged that based on that perspective if lost my faith I would look back on my time as believing in supernatural beings, miracles as the such as being delusional.
Actually, this is what you said:

"Oh I am delusional, I’m a theist. I consider this a lot. Nevertheless I have a faith anyway."

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@divegeester said
Would you like to see the screen grab of the ludicrous explanation Suzianne gave of how the post was made by someone else during a physical struggle by her and a house guest to regain control of her laptop and how her thumb pressed a key and the post was made?
Ghost of a Duke.

Third time of asking 🙂

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@divegeester said
Would you like to see the screen grab of the ludicrous explanation Suzianne gave of how the post was made by someone else during a physical struggle by her and a house guest to regain control of her laptop and how her thumb pressed a key and the post was made?
Are you claiming that was delusional or a lie?

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Actually, this is what you said:

"Oh I am delusional, I’m a theist. I consider this a lot. Nevertheless I have a faith anyway."
I’m happy with what I said and stand by it. You are free to interpret it any way you chose if you feel it helps you.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Are you claiming that was delusional or a lie?
Once you answer my question which I’ve asked you three times, I’ll answer yours.

Feel free to keep dodging it if you like.

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@divegeester said
Do you think a sincere belief in fairies at the bottom of one’s garden is delusional?
I’d like you to answer this one also please.

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