22 Jun 13
Originally posted by divegeesterThis website is still leaving out things we type. I am sure you must meant to type "it" after "is" in the following sentence:
Jesus or Jehovah?
As they are 2 separate saviours according to you on only can be your father?
Robbie quoted this in another thread to support his argument over the headship of Jehovah over Jesus.
For unto us a Child is born,
Unto us a Son is given;
And the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called
Wonderful, Counsel ...[text shortened]... Ps I asked 3 times in other threads and got no response, so I thought I'd start a thread on it.
So which is guys, Jesus or Jehovah?
This happens to me all the time, but I usually go back and edit it.
What's going on?
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22 Jun 13
I am neither a JW nor a Trinitarian, but my spiritual father is the same as the God and Father of Jesus Christ.
Rom 8:15-17
or you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs — heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.
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22 Jun 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou yourself told me that you have 2 saviours.
In what sense is that? and i will remind you that i am the Jehovahs witness, not you, so keep your attempts at defining our beliefs to the hate sites that you frequent, you dont know hardly anything about our beliefs. How many Fathers did Jesus have?
Irrespective of that, who is your spiritual father Jesus or Jehovah.
22 Jun 13
Originally posted by checkbaiterSorry, did you say your spiritual father was Jesus or his father? I.e. are you god's grandson. Sorry not clear.
I am neither a JW nor a Trinitarian, but my spiritual father is the same as the God and Father of Jesus Christ.
Rom 8:15-17
or you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "Abba, Father." 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if ch ...[text shortened]... eirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.
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22 Jun 13
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Originally posted by divegeesterIn what sense are you using the term Father, you have not said, surely you must know what it is you are actually asking? If you dont know why not ask someone that does?
You yourself told me that you have 2 saviours.
Irrespective of that, who is your spiritual father Jesus or Jehovah.
22 Jun 13
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI've already said, as in the OP scripture which you have used yourself recently in another thread. Who is you spiritual father robbie. Jesus or Jehovah?
In what sense are you using the term Father, you have not said, surely you must know what it is you are actually asking?
22 Jun 13
Originally posted by divegeesteras in the Op, so in what sense does the op use it, you have not said, tell us in what sense the Op uses the term father.
I've already said, as in the OP scripture which you have used yourself recently in another thread. Who is you spiritual father robbie. Jesus or Jehovah?
22 Jun 13
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Originally posted by divegeesterthis is hilarious, you really have no idea in what sense the term father is used in the very scripture that you quoted, brilliant, follow Hinds along the yellow brick road,
I've already said, as in the OP scripture which you have used yourself recently in another thread. Who is you spiritual father robbie. Jesus or Jehovah?
were off to see the wizard, tra la la la
23 Jun 13
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieI was clear as to who my spiritual father and my God is. It is Yahshua (Jesus). All you have to say is that your spiritual father is Jehovah. That is why you claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses isn't it?
this is hilarious, you really have no idea in what sense the term father is used in the very scripture that you quoted, brilliant, follow Hinds along the yellow brick road,
were off to see the wizard, tra la la la
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