08 Nov 18
@kellyjay saidDo you think newborn babies are Muslims [here where I live] if their parents are Muslims? And I don't mean in the demographic/government bureaucracy sense.
Two different things, what you are taught and what you had a birth. Assuming one
is the same as the other, is just that an assumption.
08 Nov 18
@fmf saidWhen I wrote about it here I used John the Baptist as an example as insight into
Do you think newborn babies are Muslims [here where I live] if their parents are Muslims? And I don't mean in the demographic/government bureaucracy sense.
one who leaped for joy. What we start off with and how we end up are two
different things. Being born into a Muslim family doesn't mean that is what you
will be in the end any more than being born into a Christian family means that will
be where you end up either. Individuals, will make individual choices that will take
them where they are going.
I've posted here the testimony of a Muslim who found Christ, and I'm sure we
all could post testimonies of those who turned into Atheist, Muslim, or something
else all of which proves my point.
@kellyjay saidSo? Do babies born down my street have religious affiliations or do they have no religious affiliations when they are born?
When I wrote about it here I used John the Baptist as an example as insight into
one who leaped for joy. What we start off with and how we end up are two
different things. Being born into a Muslim family doesn't mean that is what you
will be in the end any more than being born into a Christian family means that will
be where you end up either. Individuals, will make indi ...[text shortened]... stimonies of those who turned into Atheist, Muslim, or something
else all of which proves my point.
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@kellyjay saidAs you well know, John the Baptist was an exception as he was filled with the spirit from his mother’s womb. Stop being dishonest.
When I wrote about it here I used John the Baptist as an example as insight into
one who leaped for joy. What we start off with and how we end up are two
different things. Being born into a Muslim family doesn't mean that is what you
will be in the end any more than being born into a Christian family means that will
be where you end up either. Individuals, will make indi ...[text shortened]... stimonies of those who turned into Atheist, Muslim, or something
else all of which proves my point.
Luke 1:15
“He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice at his birth, for he (john the bapsitist) will be great in the sight of the Lord. He shall never take wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother’s womb.”
According to the versions of your own dogma, babies are born into original sin and exhibit the same characteristics as the rest of us which you frequently tell us about. Such as an evil heart, rotten core, full of sin etc and so forth.
You do believe in original sin don’t you?
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@fmf saidKnowing God as I pointed out was something John the Baptist showed when he reacted in his mother’s womb. A religious affiliation in today’s vocabulary may suggest a specific belief system among men. I doubt that if they are preprogrammed to be a Christian or Atheist but I see no reason to doubt that they are unaware of the Divine. Unprovable except through scripture which many reject outright or in part.
So? Do babies born down my street have religious affiliations or do they have no religious affiliations when they are born?
@kellyjay saidNewborns do have religious affiliations or newborns do not have religious affiliations?
Knowing God as I pointed out was something John the Baptist showed when he reacted in his mother’s womb. A religious affiliation in today’s vocabulary may suggest a specific belief system among men. I doubt that if they are preprogrammed to be a Christian or Atheist but I see no reason to doubt that they are unaware of the Divine. Unprovable except through scripture which many reject outright or in part.
Which is it?
I am using the same terminology as you used.
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@kellyjay saidI shall just re-posting the truth so you can keep overlooking it in your head-in-sand childish way that you do when you find yourself in a pinch.
Knowing God as I pointed out was something John the Baptist showed when he reacted in his mother’s womb. A religious affiliation in today’s vocabulary may suggest a specific belief system among men. I doubt that if they are preprogrammed to be a Christian or Atheist but I see no reason to doubt that they are unaware of the Divine. Unprovable except through scripture which many reject outright or in part.
As you well know, John the Baptist was an exception as he was filled with the spirit from his mother’s womb. Stop being dishonest.
Luke 1:15
“He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice at his birth, for he (john the bapsitist) will be great in the sight of the Lord. He shall never take wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from his mother’s womb.”
According to the versions of your own dogma, babies are born into original sin and exhibit the same characteristics as the rest of us which you frequently tell us about. Such as an evil heart, rotten core, full of sin etc and so forth.
You do believe in original sin don’t you?
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What’s the question sonship?
I've asked you so many that you bury your head in the sand about, its hard to keep track.
I think the last or next to the last one I asked HERE was something like - How would you prove or just demonstrate that once a person DIES he is incapable of further sinning.
And it WAS a genuine question. I was open to hear your logic. I don't KNOW that sinning ceases when the soul leaves the body and enters into another realm.
I think that was close to last or the last major question.
Seriously dude; I’ve had a 12 hour day with included 4.5 hours of driving, a top customer meeting, a uk management team meeting and a 1-2-1 with chief commercial officer.
We are all busy with other responsibilities ... dude. Not just you drive here and there and cannot always keep up on every comment.
Funny that when it comes to some poster Roman1009's being banned the same consideration isn't held about me possibly knowing nothing about it. I'm suppose to know all about that, right?
Were not all at home reading watchman nee comics and practicing our html skills.
Thanks for the mention of brother Watchman Nee. I'll take this opportunity to list of few of his books that true seekers of spirituality might be interested to read.
But I'll limit the voluminous reference just to twenty.
And Peter
Assembly Life, The
Authority and Submission
Body of Christ, The (W.N. Booklet)
Breaking of the Outer Man and the Release of the Spirit, The
Burden and Prayer
Character of the Lord's Worker, The
Christ Becoming Our Wisdom
Christ is All Spiritual Matters and Things
Christ our Righteousness
Church Affairs
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 01: The Christian Life and Warfare
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 02: The Word of the Cross
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 03, The Christian (1)
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 04: The Christian (2)
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 05: The Christian (3)
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 06: The Christian (4)
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 07: The Christian (5)
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 08: The Present Testimony (1)
Collected Works of Watchman Nee, The (Set 1) Vol. 09: The Present Testimony (2)
For further works see www.ministrybooks.org
At the judgment seat of Christ, I wouldn't mind having spiritually service like this for the Body of Christ to present rather than the collection of ... posts ... we've seen from you here for years.
And no more wisecracks about my HTML !!
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@sonship saidDon’t be dishonest. You know very well I was replying to a specific post of yours.
@divegeester
What’s the question sonship?
I've asked you so many that you bury your head in the sand about, its hard to keep track.
If you a question then post it, it not then don’t expect me to read through your boring hairdryer posts of ostentatious waffle.
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@kellyjay saidSorry Kelly but you clearly have that back to front. It is 'the text' that doesn't line up with evidenced data of our evolution.
Your belief system doesn't line up with the text so the text is wrong, there are a lot
of people of that mindset.
It merely confirms that the writer of Genesis was unaware of our true origin as a species.
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According to Hugh Ross the current designation of man is "Homo Sapien Sapien".
Just listen to just the first 10 minnutes.
Possibly described as Old Earth Creationist - astrophysicist - Phd.
Who was Adam? - Hugh Ross
&t=10s
But out of curiosity -
What was the very first instance of biological Natural Selection ?
@sonship saidYour claim that you didn't notice his creepy behaviour spread across thousands and thousands of posts spamming hundreds of threads over a period of nine months is not believable.
Funny that when it comes to some poster Roman1009's being banned the same consideration isn't held about me possibly knowing nothing about it. I'm suppose to know all about that, right?