My last posting............

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
my trusty feer and drouthy drinking buddy, you will note point three of my excellent
treatise of the subject, persecution differs in degree. Of course killing someone is
not the same as bullying them, never the less, both belong to the same category,
persecution. To diminish one over the other because they differ in degree is in my
opinion a ...[text shortened]... icize, we empathise, or should, lest we forget about our
own idiosyncrasies and imperfections!

You say, "I have never found the Gman arrogant, condescending nor
patronising..." That is because you have the monopoly on those
qualities for the JWs. The atheist monopolize what is left over.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
A guru? dude the Gman was under pressure, have you never said anything that was
emotionally charged because you were feeling it? we all have and need to just cut
each other some slack, I've said much worse things than the Gman and have way less
patience, but sometimes we just allow ourselves to be provoked, dont you think?

A minority or not ...[text shortened]... ed much greater atrocity in
a single year than we have in our entire history? it does to me.

I fully accept we all say things we regret. I have been guilty of that myself, everyone has. But you take time out reflect on those actions make an apology and move on, that is the nature of these types of forums. What you don't do is come back and start comparing what's happened in a chess forum to the murder and brutality acted upon innocent civilians. That's just silly.

You have to look at the split of this forum. 99% of the religious people here are Christians, of those nearly all are Protestant (i think). The vast majority of Christians here don't really have much to disagree about. Then there's you and the Gman who have lots to disagree about with the other Christian posters. That's the nature of the demographic split of this forum. If there were a few other marginal denominations present here the debate with you guys would dissipate. But there isn't, so that's just the way it is for now.

Originally posted by RJHinds
You say, "I have never found the Gman arrogant, condescending nor
patronising..." That is because you have the monopoly on those
qualities for the JWs. The atheist monopolize what is left over.

well you see RJH, when one recognises truth, its hard to compromise it and sully it with
watered down second hand traditions of men as proffered by southern baptist, snake
dancing, racially segregated, fruitcakes, so it comes across as arrogance, its hard when
one is so spiritually elevated to come to terms with those still stuck in AD 506 and
proffering translations of translations from the dark ages, not to seem condescending
and God knows a poor southern baptist like you who can hardly read needs all the
patronage he can git!

Originally posted by Proper Knob
I fully accept we all say things we regret. I have been guilty of that myself, everyone has. But you take time out reflect on those actions make an apology and move on, that is the nature of these types of forums. What you don't do is come back and start comparing what's happened in a chess forum to the murder and brutality acted upon innocent civilians. ...[text shortened]... te with you guys would dissipate. But there isn't, so that's just the way it is for now.

your a good guy PK, with a little adjustment you will become my greatest achievement
in the Lord 😛

Originally posted by Proper Knob
[b]i find him a southern gentleman of the highest character.

Of course you do. You've never disagreed with him and are never likely to. It's quite evident from his signing off post that he sees himself as some sort of 'guru', you and the 'guru' are on the same page so have never been on the receiving end of him talking down at you.

can you e ...[text shortened]... right and who's wrong. This is the reason there are numerous posts directed at you.

I don't believe I ever said that my issues were of anything like being murdered of tortured or the like that other JW's have experianced. And I'm certianly not a guru. I don't know where that came from but it's a little funny to say the least....
But anyway yes we are in the minority and we usually always are. We're used to it and actually feel ok with that fact. Jesus said his followers would be hated not only by the world as a whole but even by family members. It's happened in my family, I hate that, but it has and pretty much in every Witnesses family. That's something one doesn't see happen too much in the Catholic, Baptist or other main stream religions. I wonder why that scripture could not apply to them? Maybe it could be that they are a part of this world that Jesus said his followers would NOT be a part of and he also used the term "they would not be fond of you".
I wish it was not that way here at RHP but it is and it's a sad thing.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
well you see RJH, when one recognises truth, its hard to compromise it and sully it with
watered down second hand traditions of men as proffered by southern baptist, snake
dancing, racially segregated, fruitcakes, so it comes across as arrogance, its hard when
one is so spiritually elevated to come to terms with those still stuck in AD 506 and ...[text shortened]... knows a poor southern baptist like you who can hardly read needs all the
patronage he can git!

I understand. It's hard to be humble when you are perfect in every way.

Originally posted by galveston75
I don't believe I ever said that my issues were of anything like being murdered of tortured or the like that other JW's have experianced. And I'm certianly not a guru. I don't know where that came from but it's a little funny to say the least....
But anyway yes we are in the minority and we usually always are. We're used to it and actually feel ok wit d of you".
I wish it was not that way here at RHP but it is and it's a sad thing.

Something does not add up.

If you were TRULY persecuted and you know its because you are TRULY a follower of Christ, you would never get angry, behave like a stupid spoilt baby, and threaten to leave etc etc. You would instead have the confidence that the words of Christ as to persecution of his followers are coming to pass and you would TRULY be happy to be persecuted for the doctrine of Christ.

So I suggest that one or both is really the case :
- you are not truly persecuted and / or
- you are not truly a follower of Christ

NOTE - Your response is NOT required.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Something does not add up.

If you were TRULY persecuted and you know its because you are TRULY a follower of Christ, you would never get angry, behave like a stupid spoilt baby, and threaten to leave etc etc. You would instead have the confidence that the words of Christ as to persecution of his followers are coming to pass and you would TRULY be happy ...[text shortened]... uted and / or
- you are not truly a follower of Christ

NOTE - Your response is NOT required.

Well sorry dude but here's a responce. Wether you comprehend it or not, I'm not perfect and have a lot going on in my life right now. If I did not respond to your approval then tuff and stick it as I don't care what you think. You are a jerk to the bone and most here know it as I've recieved many messages about you from others here at RHP and I'm not alone in my distaste of your rudeness and your about as far from a Christian as there could be.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Something does not add up.

If you were TRULY persecuted and you know its because you are TRULY a follower of Christ, you would never get angry, behave like a stupid spoilt baby, and threaten to leave etc etc. You would instead have the confidence that the words of Christ as to persecution of his followers are coming to pass and you would TRULY be happy ...[text shortened]... uted and / or
- you are not truly a follower of Christ

NOTE - Your response is NOT required.

Similar thinking traces back through the Salem witch trials, to the Inquisition.

Originally posted by galveston75
Well sorry dude but here's a responce. Wether you comprehend it or not, I'm not perfect and have a lot going on in my life right now. If I did not respond to your approval then tuff and stick it as I don't care what you think. You are a jerk to the bone and most here know it as I've recieved many messages about you from others here at RHP and I'm not alo ...[text shortened]... e in my distaste of your rudeness and your about as far from a Christian as there could be.

Im a jerk to you becuase I called you out on
- false prophesies of the JWs
- excommunications of the JWs - over 30,000 per year
- your claims to be guided by God and being God's organisation on earth
- etc etc

Im a jerk to you because I have in part contributed to the fact that you and Robbie had a hard time on this site trying to fool people with your rubbish doctrines. Im sure there are one or two readers who have benefited from my posts.

So Im happy, but Im not arrogant enough to claim that I am persecuted for the doctrine of Christ. I just do what I think I must do to stop you jokers from fooling innocent and uninformed people.

The doctrine of the Watch Tower Organisation is a dangerous mis-interpretation of the doctrine of Christ.

Note - No response is required.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Im a jerk to you becuase I called you out on
- false prophesies of the JWs
- excommunications of the JWs - over 30,000 per year
- your claims to be guided by God and being God's organisation on earth
- etc etc

Im a jerk to you because I have in part contributed to the fact that you and Robbie had a hard time on this site trying to fool people with yo ...[text shortened]... s a dangerous mis-interpretation of the doctrine of Christ.

Note - No response is required.

If your not being persecuted in any way in your "lone wolf" Christianity then your not a follower of Christ as he himself said it would happen. You have no brothers in your lone wolf Christianity which is not even close to the brotherhood that Jesus spoke of and it's for sure you have no love for anyone.
Persecution happened to Jesus and it will happen to his true followers.
How may I ask have you suffered in the name of Jesus?

Originally posted by galveston75
If your not being persecuted in any way in your "lone wolf" Christianity then your not a follower of Christ as he himself said it would happen. You have no brothers in your lone wolf Christianity which is not even close to the brotherhood that Jesus spoke of and it's for sure you have no love for anyone.
Persecution happened to Jesus and it will happen to his true followers.
How may I ask have you suffered in the name of Jesus?

I do what Christ said I should do willingly and happily.
Whatever I have experienced I cannot call it persecution because it feels good.

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Originally posted by Rajk999
I do what Christ said I should do willingly and happily.
Whatever I have experienced I cannot call it persecution because it feels good.

[Note - Please do not respond to this post]

Have you had your family turn on you because of your religion?
Have you been stood up in front of class mates and told your a communist because you don't salute the American flag or any worldly flag?

(I'm sure you do salute it so that wouldn't be a problem for you.)

Have you been drug out into the streets of your town and flogged or worse?
Have you been chased out of a town because of your faith?
Have you been fired from your job because of your faith?
Have you been thrown in jail or prison because of your faith?
How many doors and steps have been chased from with guns and dogs and told to never come back because of your fatih and doing what Jesus TOLD you to do?
Have you ever had your church attacked and had mobs tear down the front door and the building burned and have it's members beaten?

(I'm sure that will never happen to you because you a lone wolf with your beliefs and belong to no church)

So in your righteous religion of RAJ that you've made up, how do you suffer in the name of Christ?

Originally posted by galveston75
Have you had your family turn on you because of your religion?
Have you been stood up in front of class mates and told your a communist because you don't salute the American flag or any worldly flag?

(I'm sure you do salute it so that wouldn't be a problem for you.)

Have you been drug out into the streets of your town and flogged or worse?
H ...[text shortened]... ur righteous religion of RAJ that you've made up, how do you suffer in the name of Christ?

There is a reason why I did not tell you anything about my personal life. The reason is that Im not interested in hearing about yours. Keep the private details about your life private.

In any case the same way you claim persecution on RHP the same way you are claiming persecution in other aspects of your life. If all that is true about your life [ which I doubt it is], Im sure that there are other explanations .

eg you were probably fired because of incompetence, I can very well see that happening.

Originally posted by Rajk999
There is a reason why I did not tell you anything about my personal life. The reason is that Im not interested in hearing about yours. Keep the private details about your life private.

In any case the same way you claim persecution on RHP the same way you are claiming persecution in other aspects of your life. If all that is true about your life [ which ...[text shortened]... ns .

eg you were probably fired because of incompetence, I can very well see that happening.

I've told you nothing about my private life.
I see your not going to answer any of these points as none apply to you as they can't because your not a true follower of Jesus.

PS, I've never been fired from any job because of being a JW. HA!