Originally posted by galveston75The Son of God was begotton not created. The Son of God created
Colossians 1:15
GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)
15He is the image of the invisible God,
the firstborn of all creation.
If you have a Bible look this up. It's saying (((((((((((( 2 ))))))))))))))) things here which you do not believe. First it says he is the what? The image of God. Does it say he is God here? NO, but an image of his fathe ...[text shortened]... he Bible. But it's man made doctrines that have you blinded to the simple truths in the Bible.
everything that was created. So is it not reasonable that He was not
one of the created things, since He created all things that was created?
Originally posted by RJHindsThen this and other scriptures are lying aren't they? You really need to write your own bible to make all this wacky stuff you believe work. Good luck on that...
The Son of God was begotton not created. The Son of God created
everything that was created. So is it not reasonable that He was not
one of the created things, since He created all things that was created?
Originally posted by galveston75Good one.
Where are you going?
Seriously, I would not put it exactly as RJHinds did.
The Word became flesh (John 1:14). There is no question that FLESH is an item of the creation of God.
If the WORD who was God became flesh, then God was incarnated in His creation. The Creator and the creation became united.
But we've been through this before. Incarnation MEANS that God was clothed in CREATION.
This is Jesus Christ our Savior God, the Son of the Father. That's the Bible speaking.
Originally posted by jaywillYes the "Father" Jehovah created his "son" Jesus. That's why he is called the first of all creation.
Good one.
Seriously, I would not put it exactly as RJHinds did.
The Word became flesh [b](John 1:14). There is no question that FLESH is an item of the creation of God.
If the WORD who was God became flesh, then God was incarnated in His creation. The Creator and the creation became united.
But we've been through this before. Incarnation ...[text shortened]... N.
This is Jesus Christ our Savior God, the Son of the Father. That's the Bible speaking.[/b]
God "Jehovah" was not created and he has always existed. Jesus was created but from our viewpoint we have no idea how long he's actually existed but he did have a beginning.
And yes RJH has a very different view of the trinity and one I've never heard before.
Also the Bible cleary says no one can see God and live. So Jesus could not be God as humans could obviously see him. Jesus was a man and nothing more while he was on earth.
Originally posted by galveston75You misunderstand everything you read in the Holy Bible. I have tried to
Yes the "Father" Jehovah created his "son" Jesus. That's why he is called the first of all creation.
God "Jehovah" was not created and he has always existed. Jesus was created but from our viewpoint we have no idea how long he's actually existed but he did have a beginning.
And yes RJH has a very different view of the trinity and one I've never hea ...[text shortened]... humans could obviously see him. Jesus was a man and nothing more while he was on earth.
help you but you keep your head up your behind so you can not see the
truth. If I could I would pull it out for you.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThank you for your kind words.
Great one, your back, how i have been thinking of you , a son of the Norse, also of this
frozen terrain. Anyhow, hope you are keeping well fed and warm and that the winter
sun shineth upon you to bring you good cheer!
Yes, I managed to stay away for a while, but I suddenly had a setback of my RHPoholism. Happy to be back and talk to friends again!
Sweden, at least where I live, is quite warm. Meteorologically the winter hasn't arrived yet.
But let's not go too off-topic...
Originally posted by FabianFnasSweden is warm??? PK is a rock star and Sweden is warm in December? ahhh, is
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes, I managed to stay away for a while, but I suddenly had a setback of my RHPoholism. Happy to be back and talk to friends again!
Sweden, at least where I live, is quite warm. Meteorologically the winter hasn't arrived yet.
But let's not go too off-topic...
there no justice anywhere.