New Testament

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I don't profess a belief in Hell, neither does my God, now that is what my friend?

hell/certain death, the point remains the same.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
hell/certain death, the point remains the same.

no it isn't, you are a blether, Hell is a place of eternal torment, death is death and at
present we are all facing it anyway.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
why doesnt he want to answer the questions is the key thing. he's happy to answer when things are going well. when fmf points out through clever questioning that some of the things he says are potentially hypocritical or do not make total sense, he throws his toys out of the pram. if he can explain his beliefs then what is the problem answering fmf. it should be pretty straight forward.

Perhaps when you get the time you are welcome to go back and look at ll of his post to me. I always at first answered him the best I can. He is never satisfied which is his problem. But he still continues to follow me anywhere I go. I personally find it irritating and have asked many times to not do that as I will not answer. I have no desire to talk to him reguardless of the subject, period.
Any normal person would no doubt get the simplest of hints much less my clear request to him. But he seems to lack any concept of this simply request.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
no it isn't, you are a blether, Hell is a place of eternal torment, death is death and at
present we are all facing it anyway.

present we are all facing it anyway* ** ***





*all those who do as they are told will be brought back to enjoy a paradise on earth.
** a select few will enjoy a life heaven
*** those who dont do as they are told will be punished with eternal death.

Originally posted by galveston75
Perhaps when you get the time you are welcome to go back and look at ll of his post to me. I always at first answered him the best I can. He is never satisfied which is his problem.

Because if your answer does not address the contradiction I am asking you about, I try to rephrase the question. You are not seen as one of the forum's great dodgers for nothing.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
*** those who dont do as they are told will be punished with eternal death.

Ouch! Is this a reference to me refusing to stop addressing the claims you make in your posts? 😀

Originally posted by stellspalfie
present we are all facing it anyway* ** ***





*all those who do as they are told will be brought back to enjoy a paradise on earth.
** a select few will enjoy a life heaven
*** those who dont do as they are told will be punished with eternal death.

All those who do as they are told? where did you read that? Private eye?
You must qualify to rule with the Christ, not everyone qualifies to be Queen of England,
never hear you piping up about that.
We are facing death anyway, you don't believe in a resurrection, do you, therefore you
have nothing to complain about. You have been given ample opportunity to learn about
the Christ and you rejected it, you have no one but yourself to blame for your destiny.

Originally posted by galveston75
I personally find it irritating and have asked many times to not do that as I will not answer. I have no desire to talk to him reguardless of the subject, period.

Well then don't answer. But please, you needn't get so upset when someone scrutinizes the claims you make on a public forum.

Originally posted by galveston75
Perhaps when you get the time you are welcome to go back and look at ll of his post to me. I always at first answered him the best I can. He is never satisfied which is his problem. But he still continues to follow me anywhere I go. I personally find it irritating and have asked many times to not do that as I will not answer. I have no desire to talk to ...[text shortened]... ints much less my clear request to him. But he seems to lack any concept of this simply request.

ive read it. he asks you some very good questions and seems to find several flaws in your views, he remains on topic and is simply asking you to back up statements and claims you have made. if you can back them up then why not do it? if you cant then say so. if people just run away whenever their views are challenged on here then it would end up being a pretty poor forum.

if you read all the exchanges on both threads out loud it would be less than a 5 minute conversation --- hardly qualifies as stalking. im sure ive had longer debates with you and robbie in the past.

why didnt you want to continue answering his questions?

Originally posted by galveston75
Perhaps when you get the time you are welcome to go back and look at ll of his post to me.

stellspalfie has read it. What do you reckon about his reaction to it?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
ive read it. he asks you some very good questions and seems to find several flaws in your views, he remains on topic and is simply asking you to back up statements and claims you have made. if you can back them up then why not do it? if you cant then say so. if people just run away whenever their views are challenged on here then it would end up being a ...[text shortened]... es with you and robbie in the past.

why didnt you want to continue answering his questions?

I think Galveston has realised that its a complete waste of time, ask yourself how
these questions haver furthered our understanding and you will find them bereft of
anything, if not, then please point out how they have contributed to a furthering of our
understanding? The onus is never on FMF to produce anything, ask him about the
nature of his God, he doesn't know anything, ask him about the name of his God, he is
empty, ask him what his God will do, he does not know, ask how he has contributed
anything with content and its a desert wasteland. I challenge you to produce a
single reference where he has produced anything definitive or anything of
substance, if you cannot, then you will come to the same conclusion that the Gman
did, its a futile exercise to engage him in anything, for while he is intent to simply
ask questions, he himself never proffers anything with regard to his own position but
simply seeks to cowardly chip away at the faith of other users under the guise of
sincere enquiry.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I think Galvestnm has realised that its a complete waste of time, ask yourself how
these questions haver furthered our understanding and you will find them bereft of
anything, if not, then please point out how they have contributed to a furthering of our
understanding?

What about my understanding?

And if one day you accept or acknowledge one of the contradictions I point out, why would that be a bad thing for your understanding?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
All those who do as they are told? where did you read that? Private eye?
You must qualify to rule with the Christ, not everyone qualifies to be Queen of England,
never hear you piping up about that.
We are facing death anyway, you don't believe in a resurrection, do you, therefore you
have nothing to complain about. You have been given ample ...[text shortened]... about
the Christ and you rejected it, you have no one but yourself to blame for your destiny.

All those who do as they are told? - you are told how to live through god via the bible?

where did you read that? Private eye? - are you not told how to live and what will happen to you if you dont by god?

not everyone qualifies to be Queen of England,
never hear you piping up about that. - dont get me started on the monarchy (spits on the ground).

We are facing death anyway, you don't believe in a resurrection, do you, therefore you - illogical, we are talking about your belief system and you believe i will be punished.

you have no one but yourself to blame for your destiny - ahhh, the mantra of the abusive husband - its your fault you brought it on yourself. classic.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
The onus is never on FMF to produce anything, ask him about the
nature of his God, he doesn't know anything, ask him about the name of his God, he is
empty, ask him what his God will do, he does not know

You are being disingenuous, robbie. I have been utterly clear about it and have touched upon it many a time on this forum. I don't believe God has revealed himself. Not to me. Not to you. Not my Muslim neighbour. Not to my Hindu workmate. Not to Dasa. Not to the Pope. Not to anyone. So why would I be trying to tell you "the name of [my] God"?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
[b]All those who do as they are told? - you are told how to live through god via the bible?

where did you read that? Private eye? - are you not told how to live and what will happen to you if you dont by god?

not everyone qualifies to be Queen of England,
never hear you piping up about that. - dont get me started on the monarch - ahhh, the mantra of the abusive husband - its your fault you brought it on yourself. classic.[/b]

there are two commands to love God and to love your neighbour as yourself, indeed
i think if you look at the laws of England and Wales you may find more than two
laws and yet you never so much as squawk about that.

the fact is, not everyone qualifies and why would you want to be in heaven anyway?

you will be punished at Armageddon if it strikes, if you die a natural death before
that, then what are you complaining about, it would have happened that way,
anyway. abusive husband? i have been happily married for fourteen years, only
yesterday we made exquisite love, it was awesome, I treat my wife as a queen and
she treats me like a King.